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There is apparently a lot of witnesses to the case. One of them that witnessed before the Congress said that there where talks about this in the white house prior to january 6. She also said that he demanded to be driven to the congress that day and apparently he took chocked a secret service employee since he did not do so..
Trump knew what was going to happen and calling his speech that day vague is really something. It amazes me that folks don't see the writing on the wall.
Remember that this is the justice department that charges him. They are known only to take up cases they are sure they will be able to win.
I'm not arguing Trump didn't encourage people to riot and yes, I know he knew full well what was likely to happen and did nothing to stop it. But I'm used to evidence in legal cases needing to be pretty watertight to obtain a conviction (a very good aspect of our legal system, btw). I just don't see how a conviction is likely, despite how obvious his guilt is from a "common sense" standpoint.
Maybe you don't see how a conviction is possible because there's not even an indictment, much less a case or evidence, for you to evaluate?
This thing that is only applied to the rich and is about to be used as an excuse to exonerate the criminal president who had a coup organized and carried out on his behalf is really good!
The fact is, getting someone on incitement is really, really hard. Strict scrutiny and all that. And getting someone on conspiracy to commit a crime really does require there be a definite crime -- and conspiracy to incite is thus just another layer harder.
Maybe they have some compelling materials for sedition/conspiracy to commit sedition. That might have merit.
I don't think they can get him on the riot, and so going through a song and dance trial for over that would just be campaign fodder for him. I'll wait and see, but I sure hope that is not what is happening because there are PLENTY of crimes he definitely committed. Still waiting on the stuff out of Fulton County...
From investigation or turned out that original or was to stage coup using the military (this was clearly illegal) that failed, they had 6 hour meeting in the white house on December 18th figuring out what to do. It ended about midnight and around 1am trump twitted asking his base to come to DC on January 6th that it will be "wild"
This already shows that it was all planned there, and we don't know what additional things Smith knows.