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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Java is certainly the fastest of the bunch, but I still find it rather noticeable how long the startup of applications takes and how it always feels a bit laggy when used for graphical stuff.

Certainly possible to ignore that on a rational level, but that's why I'm talking about how it feels.
I'm guessing, this has to do with just the basic UX principle of giving the user feedback. If I click a button, I want feedback that my click was accepted and when the triggered action completed. The sooner those happen, the more confident I feel about my input and the better everything feels.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've never experienced that. Also Android is OpenJDK based and the applications in Android work well and the system is well optimized

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yep, I also don't fully agree on that one. I'm typing this on a degoogled Android phone with quite a bit stronger hardware than the iPhone SE that my workplace provides, e.g. octacore rather than hexacore, 8GB vs. 3GB RAM.

And yet, you guessed it, my Android phone feels quite a bit laggier. Scrolling on the screen has a noticeable delay. Typing on the touchscreen doesn't feel great on the iPhone either, because the screen is tiny, but at least it doesn't feel like I'm typing via SSH.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That has to be because the code is better optimized for the hardware in case of iPhone and less so which language it was written in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Why? I certainly expect that to be a factor, but I've gone through several generations of Android devices and I have never seen it without the GC-typical micro-stutters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've never experienced that and I am running a several year old phone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have experienced the delayed scrolling, mostly on cheaper phones.

But that's mostly because i'm used to phones having 120+hz screens now, going back to a 60hz screen does feel a bit sluggish, which is especially noticeable on a phone where you're physically touching the thing. I think it might also have something to do with the cheaper touch matrixes, which may have a lower polling rate as well.