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Game of Thrones was nearly "destroyed" by pirates illegally streaming HBO content (www.forevergeek.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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At first this article reads like your typical anti-piracy screed. It rants about how 10x more people watched GoT illegally (confusing them with lost sales) and ends with how downloading movies can get your credit card stolen.

The middle of the article however, destroys the author's case.

Time Warner (owning company of HBO) CEO Alan Bewkes stated in 2013 how becoming the most illegally streamed show in history was “better than an Emmy” and that torrenting ultimately led to more paid subscriptions.

“We’ve been dealing with this for 20, 30 years—people sharing subs, running wires down the backs of apartment buildings. Our experience is that it leads to more paying subs. I think you’re right that Game of Thrones is the most pirated show in the world and that’s better than an Emmy.”

The CEO of Time Warner, who knows more about the finances of his own show than ForeverGeek writer Tom Llewellyn, championed piracy and said that it brought them more subscribers rather than nearly destroying the show as the article claims.

Needless to say, Tom forwent a rebuttal in favor of writing how you can get malware from downloading it...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Witcher, Foundation, The Stand, Y: The Last Man, Wheel of Time, recent Star Trek, Rings of Power, Legend of the Seeker... the list goes on and on. Sandman is only good because Neil Gaiman is keeping a tight leash on the series.

And then they cancel the rest that were turning out good, like The Expanse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you notice a pattern?

Every single one of those is either SF or Fantasy.

There are a lot of artsy lovers of literature out there who hate exactly those genres, and who have a burning passion to fix all the (perceived) flaws which (in their view) come baked into them.

As I see it, that's a big part of the problem: For the last century "a writer" was always "the literary type". There were some nerds who pretended to be writers. And those wrote pulp, SF, fantasy, and comics. Those were not real writers. You wouldn't hire one of those, if you wanted to have a real, well crafted story. At least that has been a rather common prejudice for the last 100 years or so.

And now, all of a sudden (over the last 20 years), the most popular franchises, generating the most income, all turned into SF and Fantasy, while eating everything else in their path.

In that context, I don't think the current situation is all that surprising. If you want to hire "a real writer", there is a good chance that you will hit one who despises what writers were taught to despise for the last hundred years. In an unlucky twist for everyone involved, that also happens to be what they now have to write.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There were some nerds who pretended to be writers. And those wrote pulp, SF, fantasy, and comics. Those were not real writers.

That just sounds like some hardcore gatekeeping and No True Scotsman bullshit to me.

I also don't think these new series writers are Boomers or Gen Xers, either. They are a bunch of young bloods with shit for brains and a lack of experience. It's not a taught hatred, but inflated egos.

But, you can ruin a sci-fi or fantasy series by hiring the completely wrong type of writer. Those last few seasons of Dr Who certainly proved that, hiring a bunch of fucking soap opera writers, oof.