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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah fascism really ended in 1945 /s

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Millions of Nazis were permanently cured of fascism through the noble efforts of the Allies. :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are making jokes about it but there is actually a measurement to proof this: a lot of former fascists got high positions in post war Germany in politics, economy, jurisdiction, media, ... and if a former fascist gets an influential position in a liberal democracy like post war Germany, there is no doubt they are cured. /s (if not obvious)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Not everyone who was forced to fight in the military was a fascist. I was talking about influential figures who were influential during and after the Third Reich. That's a whole different story

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Replace the word with "fascists" and it makes so much more logical sense. And this is why wording matters

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That makes even less sense or do you think there aren't any fascists left? Fascism as a dominant ideology ended in countries that still (continuously to this have) have fascists in them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saying they defeated fascists doesn't imply there are no more fascists left.

I can say I hunted deer, that doesn't mean there are no more deer left in the wild.

By referring to "fascists" (the people) rather than fascism (the ideology) you narrow your description to more accurately present the scope of your statement. The German Nazi party were fascists. They were defeated. We defeated fascists that day. There are more fascists, but that doesn't mean we didn't fight and defeat some number of fascists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was about to agree with you but then I reread the statement you responded to and it's:

Yeah fascism really ended in 1945 /s

So your suggestion is to put it:

fascists really ended in 1945

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a native speaker but that's a weird phrasing. For me it implies (or rather implicates) that all fascists ended because to end is a very strong verb semantically when applied to humans. And honestly, I wouldn't use it at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I meant in the original post haha. Since their comment was that fascism didn't end in 1945. If the post had said "winning against fascists", it would make more logical sense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In internet slang the /s means they were making a sarcastic statement, so they were being sarcastic when they said "Yeah fascism really ended in 1945 /s".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes I know. I was referring to the answer:

Replace the word with "fascists" and it makes so much more logical sense. And this is why wording matters

Which I interpreted as ... well you know. I'm not going to perpetuate this argument.