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Family and teen used 'medieval violence' to 'butcher' father of seven at funeral, court told (www.thejournal.ie)

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FIVE FAMILY MEMBERS and a teenager used “medieval violence” to “butcher” father of seven in “an honour killing” during a Co Kerry funeral, carrying out a “biblical atrocity”

43-year-old Mr Thomas Dooley was killed at Rath Cemetery, Rathass, Tralee, Co Kerry on October 5, 2022.

His younger brother, plus four other Dooleys and a teenager (presumably named Dooley; minors can't be named in the press under Irish law), have all pleaded not guilty. They gave a halting-site address.

Counsel said the trial had a combination of the macabre, a provincial tragedy and appalling medieval violence. Ultimately, he commented, it was a biblical atrocity of a case where one brother had killed another brother.

Counsel suggested the motive in the case was ‘reasonably clear’ and submitted it was because of an unhappy end to a childish relationship. Two teenagers were going out together (the daughter of the dead man + the son of one suspect), and the relationship had broken down. He said this had resulted in what some might call “an honour killing”.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

ugh, pointless discussion at this point

It was a Traveller feud. Some nerd posted a wrong take and deleted it.

Obviously the barrister wasn't saying "It was an attack related to the Bible", that wouldn't make any sense.

When he said it was mediæval he didn't mean it was related to 14th century history, he was characterising the attack.

[–] Senal 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

ugh, pointless discussion at this point

Agree to disagree, i find the varied perspectives interesting in their own right, not so much the content of the original post.

Obviously the barrister wasn’t saying “It was an attack related to the Bible”, that wouldn’t make any sense.

Agreed, but the definition and modern day usage of the word biblical does bring the context of religious behaviour as a comparison point, specifically the type of religious behaviour in the bible.

They aren't saying "it's caused by the bible" as much as "This is the type and level of behaviour one would expect to find in the bible ( a religious text )"

Which is still religious, unless you don't consider the bible to have any religious significance.

When he said it was mediæval he didn’t mean it was related to 14th century history, he was characterising the attack.

The whole point of using a word whose definition is to evoke a relationship to a period or concept is to relate this meaning to the subject.

Otherwise you'd just describe the situation directly.

If you wish to argue that someone is using a word in a way that is explicitly ignoring the actual definition (and common usage) of the word, you're free to do so.

Seems an odd hill to die on, but i've my own equally strange hills.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

TL;DR

You're being one of those argue-on-the-internet people.

[–] Senal 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If you mean someone who doesn't agree with you on everything, then...sure.

As are you.

If you are looking for a place where no-one disagrees with you , an internet message board probably isn't going to be a good experience for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you considered this

[–] Senal 1 points 4 months ago

Not until just now.

I'm more of an pondering my orb kind of person.

Not to discount your choice, you do you, is just not for me.

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