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Just this weekend I had the pleasure of installing Win 10 on a blank disk. The install went ok, but then it bothered me logging into the MS Account. After cursing for a while and since it wasn't my PC, I gave in. I know I can fight it, but it's not worth it here. Then it continued trying to get me to consent to all kinds of shit. NO, I DON'T WANT FUCKING OFFICE AND I DON'T WANT MY FILES IN ONEDRIVE you assholes!
Then it forces me to choose a PIN for "secure login". DUDE! That motherfucking PC is used for a bit of office work and gaming. Just let these poor people boot up the machine and use it! 0000? Too simple. 1234 too. Fuck you, MS. Ok, random PIN and a sticky note it is, asshats.
Anyway, after getting it to fuck off, I continue to the desktop. Oh wow, 10 updates and a ton of missing drivers? It's a fresh install! What the fuck did it install?! Of course the installation of all these updates takes an hour and countless restarts... AFTER A FRESH INSTALL! Not even my overblown super slow Ubuntu server takes that long for updates; and that runs on a HDD not a SSD like that PC I set up.
But wait. One update failed. Why? Ah, the rescue partition is too small.... THE ONE THAT DUMB SON-OF-BITCH CREATED ON ITS OWN AS PART OF THE INSTALL! How to fix? Ah, execute a bunch of commandline foo with
diskpartand other tools. Wait, isn't that exactly the kind of shit that Windows fans laugh about when looking down on us Linux nerds?!So ... ugh .... just one simple anecdote of why Windows can fuck off.
Shit, I forgot about this bug! Such a weird design choice to make the installer fuck up its own partitions.
Heh, yeah. I had to fix that earlier this year on another machine, but that one was ooold and went through a bunch of upgrades so I figured it was due to its age (even though I still didn't get how they could be so lazy to not automate this process as part of the update or ... well... slim down the rescue tools again). But then they apparently didn't even care enough to release a new installer that prevents the issue. So they either don't give a crap or even do it deliberately to break Win 10 in favor of Win 11. Either case: that's not what I pay for.
You can move Windows Recovery to C: drive but I don't recall the exact commands. Maybe I moved the recovery image to C: partition. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/reagentc-command-line-options?view=windows-11
eh...i installed windows 10 for someone last month and it went pretty smoothly. just say you don't want to connect an account, "you wont be able to use one-drive" , ok whatever . reject all "send us optional data" prompts. update to the latest version, and done.
the shittiest part of the install was trying to download the ISO... apparently windows doesn't want Linux users to download their system or something, had to get it from a windows laptop.
Offlive account during install works only when you are not connected to the internet from that PC. Maybe also only with Win Pro, not Home.
The crap you have to disable are all dark patterns and I hope the EU rips them a few more holes.
"Just update".... I think I went into enough details about what pissed me off in my initial comment.
Almost every Linux distro would have been: boot the installer, select disk, select meta packages, username, password, done. 10 mins later you have an up to date system with no shady online crap.
I updated my family members pc to windows 11 a few weeks ago and it wouldn't let me login without a Microsoft account. That was insane to me.
The PIN is stored locally on the machine only. It doesn't get synced with anything anywhere. It's actually much safer to use a PIN for authentication because it's four digits that you (well, maybe not you) don't have to write down, and the only time it works is on the physical machine. The user account password can be long and/or complex, but if you're only ever authenticating at the keyboard, all you have to remember is the PIN.
I know. My point was that I don't wanted any local auth at all. It should boot right to desktop, no PIN or password asked. The linked MS account is completely worthless and only used to satisfy the installer.
It's also possible to have Windows log in as a specific user at boot, without user input. Regardless of operating system, your logged on session is in the context of some user account, whether you interactively log in or the system does it for you.
And that's exactly what I said: the installer didn't give me that choice. I had to use a MS account and I had to set up a PIN. Everything else required completely nonintuitive changes (plural!) afterwards.