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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Renewables are currently only fossil fuel multipliers. Mining, transport, high temperature industrial processes and 24/7 industrial processes can't be run on variable electricity sources, especially expensive ones with borderline EROEI.

And, of course, if we'd get the cheap abundant magic energy sources we would just reach resource exhaustion and ecosystem crash even sooner.