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Am I the only one who missed the Owncloud rewrite in Go? (owncloud.com)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The topic of self-hosted cloud software comes up often but I haven't seen anyone mention owncloud infinite scale (the rewrite in Go).

I started my cloud experience with owncloud years ago. Then there was a schism and almost all the active devs left for the nextcloud fork.

I used nextcloud from it's inception until last year but like many others it always felt brittle (easy to break something) and half baked (features always seemed to be at 75% of what you want).

As a result I decided to go with Seafile and stick to the Unix philosophy. Get an app that does one thing very well rather than a mega app that tries to do everything.

Seafile does this very well. Super fast, works with single sign on etc. No bloat etc.

Then just the other day I discovered that owncloud has a full rewrite. No php, no Apache etc. Check the github, multiple active devs with lots of activity over the last year etc. The project seems stronger than ever and aims to fix the primary issues of nextcloud/owncloud PHP. Also designed for cloud deployment so works well with docker, should be easy to configure via docker variables instead of config files mapped into the container etc.

Anyways, the point of this thread is:

If you never heard of it like me then check it out
If you have used it please post your experiences compared to NextCloud, Seafile etc.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I had a horrible experience with nextcloud on a pi. I have a great experience on a good server. It stores files. It does that very well for me. Clients work reliable.

Nextcloud apps are sometines good and sometimes not. It can do everything. One should let navidrome serve music and not nextcloud. Mealie is for recipes. Jellyfin for videos and immich for images. Paperless for documents.

Nextcloud is file storage, backup, syncing and maybe collab. That's what I expect and that's what I get.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

What's crazy is that I tried NC on my server, which is a HP Microserver G8 hosting 13 total services. And it ran like crap. Tried the standard and AIO versions. On a whim tried NextcloudPi on a Pi4 and it has been awesome! Web interface is still pretty sluggish but I use apps that sync to NC most of the time like:

Quillpad for Google Keep type notes and checklists
Floccus for bookmarks sync
Deck for Kanban
Gnome online accounts for desktop and laptop connection with documents

So far it's been flawless. I doubt it would run well with more than a few users though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I had NextCloud on a Ryzen 3600 with NVME zfs array. While faster that my previous Intel atom with HDD + SSD cache, Seafile blows it away in terms of speed and resiliency. It feels much more reliable with updates etc.