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Am I the only one who missed the Owncloud rewrite in Go? (owncloud.com)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The topic of self-hosted cloud software comes up often but I haven't seen anyone mention owncloud infinite scale (the rewrite in Go).

I started my cloud experience with owncloud years ago. Then there was a schism and almost all the active devs left for the nextcloud fork.

I used nextcloud from it's inception until last year but like many others it always felt brittle (easy to break something) and half baked (features always seemed to be at 75% of what you want).

As a result I decided to go with Seafile and stick to the Unix philosophy. Get an app that does one thing very well rather than a mega app that tries to do everything.

Seafile does this very well. Super fast, works with single sign on etc. No bloat etc.

Then just the other day I discovered that owncloud has a full rewrite. No php, no Apache etc. Check the github, multiple active devs with lots of activity over the last year etc. The project seems stronger than ever and aims to fix the primary issues of nextcloud/owncloud PHP. Also designed for cloud deployment so works well with docker, should be easy to configure via docker variables instead of config files mapped into the container etc.

Anyways, the point of this thread is:

If you never heard of it like me then check it out
If you have used it please post your experiences compared to NextCloud, Seafile etc.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I find it really weird that something as simple as the basic functionality of nextcloud seemingly can't be implemented in a stable and lightweight manner.

Nextcloud always seems one update away from self destruction and it prepares for that by hoarding all the resources it can get. It never feels fast or responsive. I just want a way to share files between my machines.

There are other solutions, I know, but they're all terrible in their own way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, Seafile is the best I've found so far but a clean re write of the basic sync features would be great.

Seafile for example has full text search locked behind a paywall even though tools like Elasticsearch could be integrated into it for free. Even the android app as filename search locked behind a paywall. You have to log into the website on your phone if you need to search.

Pathetic state of affairs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can get a free Seafile Pro license if you create an account with them. Limited to 3 users, iirc. That's what I've been running and really using it to keep stuff on phone, desktop, and laptop reachable from any of the devices. I love it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have no problem supporting devs but locking what should be core features behind a paywall in unacceptable for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I agree. I'm this case it works out for me since I'm under the 3 user limit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you only need file syncing, there are better options than Nextcloud. But Nextcloud is the only real option if you want to create a full suite of replacements for office365 or google thanks to the large plugin ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All I want is Nextcloud Files and Calendar in one place. If there's something that can do that more performant and with a similarly nice gui i'd be all over it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That's all I need too - currently using immich for photos but missing out on an calendar/to-do list option...