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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Except it isn't infinitesimally smaller at all. 0.999... is exactly 1, not at all less than 1. That's the power of infinity. If you wanted to make a wooden board exactly 0.999... m long, you would need to make a board exactly 1 m long (which presents its own challenges).

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is mathematically equal to one, but it isn't physically one. If you wrote out 0.999... out to infinity, it'd never just suddenly round up to 1.

But the point I was trying to make is that I agree with the interpretation of the meme in that the above distinction literally doesn't matter - you could use either in a calculation and the answer wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) change.

That's pretty much the point I was trying to make in proving how little the difference makes in reality - that the universe wouldn't let you explore the infinity between the two, so at some point you would have to round to 1m, or go to a number 1x planck length below 1m.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It is physically equal to 1. Infinity goes on forever, and so there is no physical difference.

It's not that it makes almost no difference. There is no difference because the values are identical. There is no infinity between the two values.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Again, if you started writing 0.999... on a piece of paper, it would never suddenly become 1, it would always be 0.999... - you know that to be true without even trying it.

The difference is virtually nonexistent, and that is what makes them mathematically equal, but there is a difference, otherwise there wouldn't be an infinitely long string of 9s between the two.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sure, but you're equivocating two things that aren't the same. Until you've written infinity 9s, you haven't written the number yet. Once you do, the number you will have written will be exactly the number 1, because they are exactly the same. The difference between all the nines you could write in one thousand lifetimes and 0.999... is like the difference between a cup of sand and all of spacetime.

Or think of it another way. Forget infinity for a moment. Think of 0.999... as all the nines. All of them contained in the number 1. There's always one more, right? No, there isn't, because 1 contains all of them. There are no more nines not included in the number 1. That's why they are identical.