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Not really game for a heated argument, but I'll reply...
Disagree. If it's well balanced then good players can make equal best of whatever comes their way. I think the issue may be more a lack of balance than the existence of luck.
Maybe but I actually think it can be a good thing in a world where casual players don't want to get entirely discouraged by having zero chance.
Well I mean I like engine building, nice artwork, randomness, and birds. I also think there's some "chill" je ne sais quoi about wingspan that I can't define well... I don't really need any recs (don't have enough time to play gsmes as it is)... but I mean the other games I like a lot are Terraforming Mars, Catan, Pandemic...
Also I didn't really address, but I really disagree that the theme is "pasted on". Even though it's not super balanced perhaps, I think the bird powers and all that stuff are really well put together. And yeah if you're building a bird conservatory those predator birds gotta hunt. That's how they live and eat....
Thats not how luck works. Sometimes even assuming perfect play, one player will have better options available due to luck
IMO thats on them. I mean, a beginner has 0 chance to beat an experienced player in chess, but that game has done pretty well...
All of those games are gateway games that are outclassed by better games.
Try Pax Pamir 2nd edition.
You still get the cards, get to build up an engine of actions with your tableau, has a good amount of randomness in the card market (but the randomness is public, not as specifically helping/hurting players but changing the course of the game as a whole), and is one of the most interactive games I've played. Definitely top tier and worth a play. Best at 4p.
You really think Terraforming Mars is a gateway? Know what... don't answer here. I'm gonna post a haphazard review of it sometime in the next week, so you can reply there. It'll be really fun.
I'll put Pax Pamir on the list.... but the list comes after the shelf.... and the shelf has a lot unopened boxes....