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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I absolutely agree Biden's policy is bad too. Personally I think any more immigration restrictions beyond quarantine for highly communicable diseases is wrong. But saying that Biden is anywhere near as bad as Trump is just factually incorrect. It's like comparing a paper cut to a bullet wound. Criticize Biden all you want once he is reelected, but until then you are only helping Trump get back into office by acting like they are at all comparable.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, it's like comparing a minor gunshot wound to a much larger gunshot wound. Calling this a paper cut is a cruel understatement. They are comparable and you'll appeal more to voters if you admit it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Biden is trying to expand and streamline asylum. Trump wants to cut it and deport millions on top of that. It's comparing apples to the literal opposite of apples.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's an outright lie. He's literally shutting down the border in violation of our treaty obligations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Saying he is shutting down the border is an outright lie. He put a limit on illegal immigration.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Proclamation_on_Securing_the_Border

Biden ended the Covid era restrictions Trump put on the border that blocked nearly all asylum seekers. He sent thousands more staff to more quickly process asylum requests.

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2023/05/biden-deploys-thousands-federal-personnel-border/386230/

Biden expanded the path to citizenship for hundreds of thousands of immigrants who are married to citizens.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-offers-path-citizenship-spouses-us-citizens-election-year-gambit-2024-06-18/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Keep up with the news.

President Joe Biden on Tuesday issued an executive order to temporarily suspend the processing of most asylum claims at the southern U.S. border when the seven-day average of unauthorized crossings exceeds 2,500.

This is in violation of the rights of asylum seekers and a violation of our treaties. It also includes other bullshit like making it more difficult to make credible fear claims and thus easier to deny asylum (when they bother to have the border open).

Legally he shouldn't be able to just blanket deny asylum claims, but America never lets the law get in the way of fucking nonwhite people over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He isn't denying asylum claims. That is a lie. He is pausing the processing of asylum claims so we can catch up. Asylum seekers will still get to apply; they just have to wait. There is only so much manpower and time in the day, so there is a finite amount of applications that can be processed during a week. Makes sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Pausing asylum claims means people have to wait and die. For them, there's no difference between a pause and a denial.

Pausing claims after such a low number of approvals will also mean some people will be waiting months.

Why are you even bothering to defend Bide after last night? We should be replacing him!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Replace with who? Nobody has a better shot than him, like it or not.

Having to wait is part of getting asylum. It's not the end of the world. If they absolutely can't wait, they can cross away from the official border crossing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Any of the people who ran in 2020 would probably be fine, they have name recognition and I bet they'd all say yes. That's why they had the debate before the Convention! They wanted to see how Biden would do and he did terribly. He needs to be replaced.

Hell, most of us voted for Biden under the assumption he would be a one term president!

And it is the end of the world for the people who will literally die because they couldn't wait in the US while their asylum claim was being processed. That's the huge part. What the new rules do is force them to remain in Mexico (literally a 2019 Trump policy btw), where people seeking asylum are in mortal danger and will die. Stop trying to normalize this.