c/neurodivergence isn't being moderated at all lately. Three months ago there was the great post from [email protected] concerning ableism against people with NPD, and the amount of toxicity I saw in that thread was shocking. Some great people pushing back on the ableism and hate there, but I couldn't believe those hateful comments were being left up, or the sheer volume of them.
Yesterday I posted a new article I wrote also concerning NPD, hoping I would get the same kind of positive response I've gotten from Beehaw in the past when talking about neurodiversity. But instead I saw nothing but hate, personal attacks, and vicious toxicity. This isn't the kind of discourse I come to Beehaw to see, and I don't think I'm alone.
Looking at the community history, it looks like the post volume has dramatically reduced since immediately before that first NPD post. I'm not surprised people are avoiding the community, I don't intend to use it anymore either if what I received yesterday is going to be the norm.
The modlog of this community hasn't been touched in 7 months, and the only comment removal visible at all is tagged with the removal reason "stupid comment", which I frankly find quite ironic.
Can we please have some actual moderation on this community? If there is absolutely nobody else who can volunteer their time then I'd even be happy to do it Myself.
this whole thing has been a mess so, here are some bullet points of what we expect going forward.
most immediately: both sides of this are going to have to make peace with being uncomfortable. it is Grail's right to argue the premise that there is ableism against people with NPD; but, it is also the right of everyone else to disagree with that, and to disagree with it for personal experience reasons. if that's a problem for you, don't engage with this stuff and block people, full stop. genuinely: do something else. this is our third discussion on this subject and i have seen exactly zero minds changed as a result on either side, so i doubt you're going to be the first if you're obstinate enough.
if you would like more elaboration on the line we take here, please see our essay On Content Removal, and specifically this section:
secondarily:
FWIW, I haven't read the previous discussions, and this one changed my mind in a few ways, so that's something, which leads me to...
Technical question 1: as an alternative to a full block, is there a way to "soft block", or tag, or whatever, some people, to act as a sort of CW?
I think part of the issue here, lies in what different people consider to be "polite".
Technical question 2: what is the policy about mainly submitting links to own posts on external sites? Some places would see that as "self promotion", but I could see the value of keeping a canonical source for one's exposés. What is the stand of Beehaw in that regard?
Wrt technical question 2, I don't personally believe this should run afoul of self promotion guidelines. This was not a monetized service, just this person's personal thoughts.
I think this method actually works really well for having more in-depth discussions, so you can have a lot of background information in a longer form piece that lets you keep the post itself about a tighter discussion, rather than being a text dump. It's also more useful as a method to use for reference elsewhere.
I've been considering doing this for some of my posts, I just don't have a blog myself. :p
Good point about monetization. There could still be issues like political or religious views, though.
It would be nice to have some guidelines about stuff like topics, frequency, whether there should be a summary of the link content included with the post (like in the case of news), and similar.
I used to keep personal pages and blogs since the 1990s, but lately got fed up with the constant spam and intrusion attempts, and health issues didn't make it easier. I've been considering at some point migrating everything to markdown on something like GitHub Pages, with the added bonus of revision tracking, and just linking to it in whatever way... with forking as a solution to the bus factor.
fair point. I guess I would say that beehaw is in a place where more content and more things to talk about is basically always better, so admins and mods are going to leave the floodgates open until they have a reason to moderate it. The news communities have no explicit requirement to summarize the content in the post - some folks just do that to highlight a specific point. At least that's what I do.
Not ideal, but Sync for Lemmy premium (ultra) has a custom tagging/highlighting feature. Not sure about other apps. It's subscription or a large lifetime payment. But there is cloud syncing (and other features).
Right, I forgot about that. Maybe I'll give it a try, only it feels a lot like lock-in 🙁
Thank you. I have no wish to silence discussion on the matter, I'm more than happy to talk about the issue with people who disagree respectfully. I only have a problem with the kind of people who call Me slurs and misgender Me because I stick up for disabled people and have an unusual gender. And I can see you've removed a lot of those comments, so thank you.