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Two definitions of self hosted (lemm.ee)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Disclaimer: I'm no expert on this.

I realized recently there are two common types of Self Hosters here.

I work in IT and host some services for my employer so we don't have to rely on the big tech companies, for economic or other reasons.
I self host some services at home or on a VPS, as a hobby or for other reasons, but nobody pays me to do that.

The answers people provide seem to vary greatly based on whether the commenter is in the #1 or #2 camp. I myself have gotten answers along the lines of, "why aren't you acting more like a paid IT person?" and it's a little off-putting.

How to resolve this? Could we refer to one group or the other differently?

Maybe I'm making a bigger deal out of this than is warranted and I'm the only one confused?

If nothing else, I will call out my hobby status from now on when posting/commenting here.

Edited to add: TIL. I'll use these terms carefully in the future. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ignore the host part. It has to do with the definition of self. Self can refer to a person but it also can refer to a group like a company.

However, in IT you will mostly see the term on prem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

This was my first thought. I've never said "self hosted" to a client and, honestly, never would. "On-prem" or "Running on your server." The idea of a company "self hosting" something is literally just "hosting".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This. Most app servers need to be isolated from the internet anyways so any license servers for activation or metrics or whatever needs to go on premises. Same thing with mail engines, is usually a few outgoing ports, heavily warded for the mail ip and everything behind all the opSec tools they can muster

Even AWS and GCP have on premises deployments were you basically create your own mini local region for banks and such