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The Infodump

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This community is for infodumping about whatever your special interests are!

Lemmy is still burgeoning, and we yet to have enough members in many communities to actually hold conversations about many interests, especially very narrow ones. In hopes of creating a safe space for those that wish to talk about their interests, this place was created to facilitate those talks, and if a relevant community is found that went missed, sharing that in the comments to help OP find a space for themselves.

Posting Rules:

  1. Rules must comply instance rules, please read them.
  2. Please search for existing communities of your interest first and confirm there aren't any active ones. If you post here, expect some may recommend relevant communities.
  3. Post length does not matter, if you want to dump a single fact or a whole top-to-bottom educational post, go for it.
  4. In your title, add a bracketed tag to make clear the interest, eg [Fountain Pens]
  5. No memes as a post please, this is a place for interaction, though you may use them inside your post.
  6. Label potentially triggering information and spoiler it.
  7. No special interest policing or degradation. No one should be made to feel bad for their interests, nor should anyone be made to feel bad for not knowing information.
  8. Cross-posting is acceptable but keep it to text posts.

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Definition

An infodump is an informal term for someone sharing a lot of information at once. It is a common autistic behavior and typically revolves around a topic that the presenter is passionate about (aka a special interest). Among neurodivergent people, an infodump is seen as a love language. The person providing the infodump is showing the other person that they care about them. The following is my inference on why they are a common behavior among autistic people.

Why do I think they happen?

Hyperfocus

Autistic people tend to get hyperfocused, sometimes on learning a topic. These topics are usually referred to as a special interest and can become a major area of the person’s life, constantly thinking about it even when engaged in other activities. It can be so intense, that the person may forgo regular activities such as socializing, eating, and self-care. They can be that interesting to them. Imagine how interesting a topic has to be for you to start cutting out normal areas of your life. Seeing how this topic brings them pleasure and gratification, they would like to share it with others given the opportunity.

Bottom-Up Processing

We use bottom-up processing. We understand details before we understand the whole. Before accepting that there is a forest, we need to know what the trees are. Therefore, it is difficult for us to understand the whole picture only. As an example, the Russian Revolution happened because of Lenin and communist ideology. But why? Who is Lenin and what is communist ideology? Lenin was a Russian revolutionary and communist ideology was a social-political philosophy and prescription for social relations. But why did he become a revolutionary and why did they create and promote communism? On and on…until I’m learning about the Mongols taking Moscow in the 1200s. Did you know that one of the reasons the Mongols were so effective was because they promoted military personnel based on merit and not class? Moving on…

Confusion

Personally, the world is quite confusing to me. People say things they don’t mean and there are contradictions everywhere. For example, the speed limit on I-95 in Florida is 70 mph. Anyone going over that speed is violating the law and if caught, a State Trooper is directed to issue the speeder a citation or worse. Yet, the vast majority of vehicles on I-95 are going over 70 mph! What is happening?! I guess maybe neurotypicals have an understanding that if everyone is doing something, then that is the rule; it’s part of how they create truth by collectively agreeing to it. To me, the explicitly stated rule is the rule. Since there is this glaring contradiction, I’m left wondering, “What other rules aren’t rules?” Boom! This results in a desperate need to learn everything about driving, to include the history of cars, transportation infrastructure, traffic enforcement, traffic cultures throughout several states and countries, the process on how traffic laws are created, etc. Basically, I’m trying to figure out what is really going on so I know how to predict and behave. Notice that this is a simple example based on just one contradiction that nearly everyone in Florida experiences without much thought. Imagine how many contradictions I see everywhere in my life. The social world is a huge collection of contradictions between what is stated and what occurs. Nothing makes sense. I imagine other autistic people experience the same.

Meaning

Here I am confused as to what the hell is happening with traffic, so once I figure it out, I want everyone else to know. Shoot. If someone would have told me about it before I went desperately learning about it, I would have been so happy and appreciative. Me telling someone else is me saving them all the confusion and effort into researching this topic. I basically did all the work and am giving it out for free without expecting anything in return. It’s an act of service. But, it also works as a way to connect. We are sharing a collective understanding just like neurotypicalss, just this one is quite detailed. It’s also like empathy. We both understand and feel the same way about something. That is quite connecting and validating. Additionally, I’m proud that I was able to understand this confusing situation. I’m demonstrating that I bring value and contributions to others.

So, an infodump isn’t just information. It’s an act of service, connection, validation, and establishing my value to a social group. In fact, this very post is an infodump doing just that. I’m providing effort into helping the moderators and future users to help this community, connecting with others on our experiences and perceptions of infodumps, validating that infodumps are a love language, and demonstrating that I can contribute to this community. Feel the relief of congruence, ahhhhhhhhh.

Ending

Ok, I'm done. This is my explicit social cue that I have finished my statement. Thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can relate to the bottom-up processing so much. I never thought about it too much, aside from (a few months ago) figuring out that I often need to understand the basic details of something before I can really understand the collective thing.
One example that comes to mind is understanding the version control system (wikipedia link) "Git". I knew how to use the available commands to a certain degree but performing more complex operations always seemed kinda foggy.
After reading up on the structure of commits, branches and other things and how they're all handled, it was a lot easier to really understand what those commands I found on stackoverflow actually did. What the effects of different commands really did to the underlying data instead of having to rely soley on the prettier version presented to the user to trace what's going on.

Having a term to associate with this need to understand is wonderful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Having a term to associate with this need to understand is wonderful.

I agree! I'm learning that having awareness and terms to understand our traits are soooo helpful. For example, before knowing about sensory overload, I would try to figure out why I would become irritable and stupid in many situations that everyone else seemed fine in. I would think it was the company I was with, someone's snarky comment or look, the music playing, current stressors in my life,...anything besides sensory overload. This would lead to me making faulty associations and trying to solve issues that weren't there, ultimately not making any real impact. Once I realized that I'm autistic and that sensory overload was a thing, I started taking care of that and my life improved so much.

Regarding infodumping, I didn't realize that it was annoying to NTs. I thought everyone was basically the same. Since I loved infodumps, so must everyone else. When people would get mad at me for infodumping, I thought they didn't like me or were jerks. Now that I know it's a thing and how different people take them, I can feel less confused and make adjustments to get along better with others.