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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    If you're using it mostly for gaming, Windows is going to be the superior choice.

    From a benchmark perspective this has shown to be false in some or many areas. And outside of kernel-level cheat protection, games are continually hitting Gold on ProtonDB, which means that the list of games only working on Windows is dwindling every day.

    And now with umu-launcher, which is now baked into Lutris, the games don’t even have to run via Steam in order to make use of Proton, and especially proton-ge. Thank the Glorious Eggroll! (And thank all others who have had a hand in this Linux gaming renaissance)

    So I assert that Windows is not at all the superior choice anymore. And with Recall and other nonsense Microsoft has done, they deserve to lose all the marketshare possible — thus, I am advocating for people to switch to Linux as fast as they can. It’s a tough sell to some, for sure, but if I can get my mother to run Linux, I have a good chance to get anyone on board.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    From a benchmark perspective this has shown to be false in some or many areas.

    A great lot of good those benchmarks are going to to when your game doesn't run AT ALL. This is such a non-argument it's not even funny at this point.

    It's great to be an open source advocate, but this argument crosses the line into zealotry. It has very little basis in the reality of things.

    Do I want Microsoft to die a quick and painful death? Absolutely. Is Linux the superior choice in all situations -- absolutely not.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I have yet to play a game in the past few years that doesn’t run perfectly thanks to Proton and the work Glorious Eggroll is doing. The only games that won’t play are the ones requiring kernel level anti cheat (which is a ridiculous requirement in the first place).

    Something tells me you haven’t tried to play games on Linux in the past few years. So I can understand your point of view given that probable inexperience. However, I have been a user of all three OSes for decades and am not a zealot, and the fact that you think I am is enough for me to not waste any more time here.

    Enjoy. I know I will, without Windows in my life now.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    https://www.protondb.com/

    80% on Tier 3 or lower for Proton Click Play. That's not a small number. That means a majority of games, have bugs, crashing issues, things that cause them to be unplayable or glitchy...

    So I repeat...

    A lot of good those benchmarks do when only 20% of the games are playable to the same degree...

    Great, you have success with it. But your anecdotal evidence does not make a solid claim to base things upon.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

    It’s always funny when people find the single metric that seems to validate their argument without looking at the rest of the picture. There are 70% Gold and Platinum which means that 70% of those being tested work on Linux.

    Yes it’s not perfect. I never once said it was. I simply said those games which have been benchmarked and compared as apples to apples are proven to run better on Linux. And somehow that triggered you into a red herring argument about the viability of Linux gaming because you think that it’s a worthless endeavor.

    But, I replied to you in your thread refuting what you said. And you clearly have the intention of being combative about it instead of saying “you know what…you’re right there is a ton of progress that has been made, but for me I’ll stick with what I know.” And let that be the end of it. So I’ll bow out of this pointless conversation.

    You do whatever you wish, I’m not interested in swaying you. We won’t agree. It’s okay. I’m sure I’ll go on living and enjoying the freedom of my choices.

    Good bye.