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I see this point repeated a lot, it's just not true.
For example sudo apt upgrade is broken currently on the debian live images.
Imagine you tell someone "if you want stable, go debian" they hear it and install it and literally first apt update upgrade it's borked.
There isnt a distro that isnt a hassle, that doesnt exist.
Why would you be running apt upgrade on live images?
I'm confused about this question.
If you install debian through the live image. The apt upgrade of your installation will come out of the box broken.
I haven't seen anyone mention this problem, and I've recently installed Debian and didn't have this problem.
I linked it elsewhere. It's a problem if you install from the live image. If you want I could find the link again for ya.
I ended up finding it after replying. Definitely an unfortunate issue, but the replies say it is fixed and the updated ISO will not have it.
Why is that an issue for a desktop user?
Because you can't update your system at all. How's that not a problem?
... from a live environment. Thats not a problem because almost no one does that, and certainly not a problem because no one relies on updating a live environment for their desktop usage.
That's not it. If you install on your hardware with the live image. Apt upgrade is broken. On your hardware. Not on the live image.
Ah, well that is a serious issue! I've never experienced a bug even close to that bad on distros with a reputation of being less stable than Debian, so that surprises me.