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Urban Microcars (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Society's got priorities wrong.

  • most car travels are 1 person or sometimes 2 person

  • the majority of car travels are quite short, less than 40km.

  • many car travels are just to get some groceries or drop of a little package or just say "hi" to someone, carrying nothing but themselves.

  • cars are fucking expensive, to buy and to maintain

  • accidents become way worse with heavier vehicles

Microcar is a valid answer to all of these, while still being sheltered from weather.

How are urban places (i'm in Belgium) with almost permanent super heavy road traffic congestion, bad climate statistics, high polution values, very limited available space left, no self-sustaining energy production and high traffic accident statistics still pooring in billions and billions in subsidies year after year into "regular" big heavy SUV-like vehicles instead of these? It's beyond my comprehension. The only real valid reason i somewhat get is the collective scare of being in a crash and not wanting to be in the smaller vehicle. We could save the climate, we choose not to.

  • MICROLINO: 17.990 €
  • OPEL ROCKS: 8.699 €
  • CITROEN AMI: 7.790 €
  • RENAULT TWIZY: 13.000 €
  • FIAT TOPOLINO: 9.890 €

A lot of people here casually spend more on a sunday racing bike every few years for fucks sake.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying but by that same logic I can just hand waive all of those away by saying they don't fit my specific life case use.

I would have loved to have one of those when I was in college and just needed it to go to school and work.

I couldn't afford a regular car so I just took my cities shitty public transportation which added a couple hours to my commute. I didn't even live far from school and work it was just that sucky.

I think there's definitely a space for those cars in modern society. I would love to have one to just go to the store and regular commute. I looked into the micro line they just aren't available in my area yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The ideal use case for these vehicles - short, local trips with a single person and no cargo - is better served by improving public transport, not using a mini car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I agree with you, I loved public transit in the greater Tokyo area when I was there but this is a change I can do on my level vs public transit which I can only do so much to affect.