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Maybe they can change their fortunes by not making the exact same fucking game 20 times in a row.
Just Cause, Rage 2, Mad Max, Generation Zero, The Hunter ARE THE SAME FUCKING THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN
Okay, I'll bite. How are all of those the same?
All rely heavily on fetch quests as the basis of their game loop, and all of them are flavored fetch quests. I played Generation Zero and got sick of it quick, and it quickly became apparent as I played Rage 2 that this is most of the experience.
Isn't that more of a problem with game design in general though? I'd argue if you're going with just that example then Rage 2 is the same as most MMOs. Go here, kill things, go back and deliver items, etc. Also, how are those two games similar to Just Cause or Mad Max?
Well, for Generation Zero, I felt like the closer I got to the endgame and FNIX Rising the more obvious it got that Avalanche really expected you to do middling discovery and fetch quests to prepare, and it becomes incredibly unbalanced system wise (especially in FNIX Rising, which is tacked on crap that had no playtesting for balance). I saw a similar pattern in Rage 2.
Generation Zero was a really, really, really bad first experience for me.
Sounds like you don't like open worlds. Maybe don't play them?
I actually liked New Vegas' open world and its a miracle it turned out the way it did, and within the span of a year. Night City too, but CDPR had a long time to get it right and I even waited a year and a half post-release.
Just Cause 2 was their big hit, so they kept trying to make Just Cause 2 again with every subsequent game, Just Cause or otherwise.
Lightening doesn't strike twice.