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What I have learned:

  • Russia has already won the Ukraine war
  • Which NATO started
  • A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender
  • Also Ukraine was the world's main provider of CSAM
  • Also Ukraine is exploited by the West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else will finally be alright

It's literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over there agreeing with it. I'm genuinely confused by, who even are these people (what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people / confused Westerners / some other explanation.)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, the holodomor lol.

I had a hex person once tell me that actually the holodomor happened because of Nazi agents sabotaging agricultural production in Ukraine.

You know, in 1932 and 33. When the Nazis were putting all their resources into street fighting, barely eeking out a substantial amount of electoral power, Hitler becoming chancellor due to a compromise... you know largely before they had large numbers of party members or massive control of the state... yep they just secretly managed to sabotage the agricultural system of another state.

This person's source was literally 'I heard that...'.

I asked them for an actual source and they retreated into "Wow, way to ruin my good faith conversation attempt."

Its like they'd never actually been responsible for anything in their life, and just assumed that gossip and hear-say are totally on par with like... an actual idea with any kind of evidence.