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Donald Trump has been found guilty of using a criminal hush-money scheme to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

The verdict came after a jury deliberated for less than twelve hours in the unprecedented first criminal trial against a US president. It marks a perilous political moment for Trump, the presumptive nominee for the Republican nomination, whose poll numbers have remained unchanged throughout the trial but could tank at any moment.

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 5 months ago (4 children)

So the Republican nominee is a thirty-four time convicted felon?

I guess I can be president too someday.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Convicted felons can run for office. They just can’t vote in the election.

I desperately want him to lose Florida by one vote. His own.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Florida says he can vote based on the conviction being in NY, and in NY he can vote unless he’s incarcerated.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which is how it should be in Florida, and everywhere. People shouldn't continue to be punished after serving their time.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

They should be able to vote in jail too. Otherwise an authoritarian could just lock up their political opponents, especially in swing states.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah. Bummer. I believe he can only vote in his home state of Florida, but it makes sense that the NY conviction doesn’t restrict his rights in another state. Thanks for the correction.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Here is a better worded article snip from wapo:

Under Florida law, those convicted of crimes in other states cannot vote if they are barred from voting in the state where they committed their offenses, according to the U.S. Vote Foundation. New York law bars felons from voting while they are incarcerated but not when they are on probation or parole, according to the foundation and Loyola Law School professor Justin Levitt. Trump has not been sentenced yet and could remain free while he appeals his convictions. That means Trump will probably be allowed to cast a ballot as long as he is not behind bars this fall.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What about insurrectionists like Donald trump? 🤔🤔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

If he’s convicted of aiding in the insurrection, it would be up to SCOTUS to determine eligibility for reelection based on the treason clause of the Constitution. I wouldn’t hold my breath with that bunch.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Yup you just have to go on TV, act like an asshole constantly, and gain a cult like following from the dumbest Americans imaginable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Could someone explain how it's possible for him to be running for president?

Like, are there no laws against this? Is the only requirement for the person to have a pulse?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

If felonies prevented people from holding government positions just imagine how many bogus charges would be leveled at the GOP's enemies just to see if anything stuck. Just look at how Russia throws bogus charges at people to prevent them from running against Putin.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The U.S. Constitution states that the president must:

  • Be a natural-born citizen of the United States.
  • Be at least 35 years old.
  • Have been a resident of the United States for 14 years.
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

It's kind of like the scene "there ain't no rule a dog can't play basketball" from Air Bud. The constitution has set minimum qualifications to be president, but didn't bother with the disqualifications because it would be insane to try to conceive of every possible scenario that would disqualify an individual from seeking the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

There are no laws against it, no.

In fact he can be president and in prison at the same time, but he won't get prison time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Constitution does not say anything about a criminal record, so, that's why. But, be real. If all the politicians had their skeletons out on display, literally none of them would be without a criminal record.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I don't know who downvoted you but you're right. It's not possible to get there clean.