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Te Pāti Māori wants to establish its own parliament (www.stuff.co.nz)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Im quite surprised by this, isn't Parliament a crown/british concept? And Te Pati Maori are usually quite opposed to Crown concepts.

Regardless, I think as much hate as ACT gets for this - it seems obvious that clarity on the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi is required so that every New Zealander knows where they stand (legally speaking) and we can move on as a country.

The different interpretations from different groups are distracting from the real issues because the solution gets muddied.

Should we establish group-specific organisations that all do the same thing, just for different segments of society - or should we pour our energy and resources into making organisations work for all New Zealanders?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Just as a suggestion; because its interesting stuff. Maybe have a read of some of the work the Waitangi Tribunal has produced over the years.

What's been happening in recent years is Act, Don Brash and others approaching the issue with race baiting sound bites. Its mostly vibes and bad faith.

Compare it to the huge amount of research and historical context the Tribunal has put into their work.

https://waitangitribunal.govt.nz/news/report-on-stage-1-of-the-te-paparahi-o-te-raki-inquiry-released-2/ https://waitangitribunal.govt.nz/assets/WT-Part-1-Report-on-stage-1-of-the-Te-Paparahi-o-Te-Raki-inquiry.pdf

In any case, to understand where Maori are coming from, its important to remember this finding: "... rangatira who signed te Tiriti o Waitangi in February 1840 did not cede sovereignty to the British Crown.

Ie, if sovereignty wasn't ceded back in 1840 why should any Maori give two hoots what Seymour thinks?