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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This might sound pedantic, but it isn't, it was actually naive: I expected a better environment in academia when I was young.

Why? Because academia is supposedly full of bright people, and I assumed they would be bright enough to be cooperative (because academia advances more when we are, and they supposedly love knowledge); unattached from superficiality (like judging people by their looks, money, etc., because they should know an interesting person can come in any "package"); relatively ethical (as bright people should figure out something close to the categorical imperative, although with unique details); a non-dogmatic, eager to learn and correct their ideas —over preferring recognition and pettiness— attitude (again, just because I assumed their intelligence must guide them towards appreciating knowledge and authenticity over much more ephemeral and possibly worthless things such as prizes, fame, etc.).

I was wrong, so wrong. It's painful to remember how I felt when I realized it...

But I think the premises weren't entirely off, I just imagined people much wiser and more intelligent than they are, myself included. Anyway, I fully understand why others are shocked too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I'm sorry you went through that. I grew up around academics -- a few of my parents' friends were professors and one was a research chemist, then I had several former professors as teachers in high school; the message from them was always clear -- academia is awful because of politicking, backstabbing, and the neverending need to be publishing something next week no matter what you did last month.

The quote, often misattributed, "Academic politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low." has always stuck with me because of this. As I watched my wife pursue her postgraduate work in Chemistry, I was granted the unfortunate privilege of seeing it first hand. She now works as a children's librarian and is much happier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

At the top of academia everyone is tenured. Everyone has proved their intelligence. It is so political because there is so little at stake

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago

I only read the first sentence and the last. Just like every reviewer ever. Be well.