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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Read some Foucault for an explanation, that's just being human. You don't stop being human just because you follow scientific ideals. All human endeavors will follow human dynamics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Seriously. I read this and all I could think was "what a dick".

Disclaimer, I have not read the full source material and am only basing this off the quoted image.

I fully understand not being interested in having to attract your own funding, it's awful. But the rest of it is not limited to the academic or scientific pursuits. Being a decent enough person so people want to support you? Developing good work that people want to hear about it (ie conferences)? (By the way, you submit your own work to conferences and they are judged to be invited blindly, ie names removed), being able to hold your tongue when you know someone is wrong in order to keep peace? Understanding that hierarchy exists?

These are not things that are antithesis to good science, and if no one had ever taught her these things that's a failing on her younger days.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 0 points 5 months ago

Miss me with that thought terminating cliche.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No. Science is the only human effort that specifically defines what human is. If we allow that "sure being human is going to mess up science" then we have failed before we even started.

I'm really surprised, although this is becoming kind of common so perhaps I shouldn't be, to see all the comments saying effectively "yeah, so?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Science doesn't define what humans are. Humans are, then science plays catch up to try and define what that even means. Science is a human endeavor, a framework of thought, it doesn't exist in a vacuum, it cannot exist without humans thinking, talking about it and doing it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So if I ask you to define what a human is, you’re not going to draw at all from any previous scientific studies?

I doubt it. Not to get too ontological, just saying science (biology, psychology, anthropology) very much do define what human is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

For a lot of people, I would think that the answer to "what is a human?" Would be closer to religious and philosophical definitions than scientific ones.