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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It's kind of ironic that Freud came up with this weird theory considering autogynephilia is more common in men than autoandrophilia is in women: The Prevalence of Paraphilic Interests in the Czech Population: Preference, Arousal, the Use of Pornography, Fantasy, and Behavior

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Science facts I question why you know, for 500$, Ragdoll.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~But in case you're curious about the actual answer~~

Ages ago I was doing some research on the prevalence of different paraphilias (my main focus being zoophilia as I was contributing to WikiFur), and this was one of the few large representative studies I came across. There's one more from Canada, but they didn't ask about autogynephilia/androphilia.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Autogynephilia is an outdated, thoroughly debunked term btw. Find some reading below:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard%27s_transsexualism_typology
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20582803/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15532739.2010.514223
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0038026120934690
https://juliaserano.medium.com/making-sense-of-autogynephilia-debates-73d9051e88d3
https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/11/13/five-lies-terfs-tell-about-the-trans-community-debunked/
https://medium.com/the-establishment/why-are-trans-women-penalized-for-body-fantasies-everyone-has-44d238d55431
https://genderanalysis.net/2016/04/alice-dreger-autogynephilia-and-the-misrepresentation-of-trans-sexualities-book-review-galileos-middle-finger/
https://www.crossdreamers.com/2020/05/the-autogynephilia-theory-debunked-by.html
https://archive.is/fw208

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's quite clear by now that it has practically nothing to do with gender incongruence, i.e. trans folks, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist as a paraphilia. That is, just because Blanchard got his theory wrong based on incomplete data and probably a good dose of being born into certain social constructs doesn't mean that no cis men get aroused at the thought of them as a woman. It is, as the study in the comment you replied to shows, actually quite common.

Gotta distinguish between the phenomenon auto[gyno/andro]philia (exists), Blanchard's interpretation wrt. trans folks, (falsified), and TERFs (hateful anti-science assclowns). Otherwise we'd be kink shaming.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Many of Freud’s early patients were dissatisfied housewives. I have no difficulty believing he accidentally discovered trans men and came to the conclusion all women wish they have a penis. Hirschfeld he was not.