this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2023
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Not sure if any of you have encountered the same resistance to using Signal. Some of my cousins refused to use Signal because they are already using "too many chat apps" (e.g. WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, WeChat, Telegram, Line, Snapchat, etc.). To them, Signal will just be another chat app among their numerous other chat apps. I understand that jumping between so many messaging apps imposes some kind of cognitive and maintenance burden. What are some ways to convince such people to use Signal?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

First, you're conflating privacy with anonymity.

Secondly, they are one of the few orgs (maybe only?) that have been subpoenaed multiple times and they've published documented evidence [0] that even when compelled by law to present all the info they have on any specific user, all they know is:

  1. The date you created an account
  2. The last day (not time) one of your clients messaged their

Feel free to trust whoever you want, but the source code to Signal's clients and server are open for anyone to criticize, and they have been. They're not perfect, nobody is, but they're also one of the few orgs out there showing that they're willing to put up or shut up.

Criticize in a constructive manner. Don't be dismissive and spread FUD by stating "I don't trust them" without backing up understanding the Signal threat model and mixing up privacy & anonymity.

[0] https://signal.org/bigbrother/