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With a last name like Fuentes, the Nazis would have probably thrown him in a camp. I don’t understand why some people are white supremacists when they aren’t completely white. It’s like, are they racist against themselves? It’s like watching Dave Chapelle’s stand up routine about the blind, black, white supremacist. Are people like Fuentes for real?
'White' is a made up category that changes its meaning in different countries and contexts. All identities are arbitrary. If you derive social or material benefit from a fascist identity, you might decide it's worth it to be a fascist.
It's not uncommon for people who might be read as a marginalized identity to adopt an identity that hedges against being part of that marginalized identity - gay republicans, poor billionaire-stans, anti-immigration migrants, etc.
Right. I think grouping people by color would make much less sense than grouping people by something that actually matters in the event of an emergency. People have spent so many years hyper-focused on race, religion, color, and sexuality. When someone drops to the ground from cardiac arrest, no one cares about those things. What they should be asking is, “what is this person’s blood type, in the event they require heart surgery and need blood transfusions?” No one ever seems to care about the differences in people that can determine life or death at some point. No one ever cares about what really matters until it’s too late. Society wants to divide itself? That’s great! Let’s do that by blood type so everyone can live near their potential blood donors, and people they could potentially help in medical emergency. Everyone will just downvote this, I’m sure, and go right back to discussing racial supremacy and who said what to hurt someone else’s feelings, in the political arena.
...Spanish people are white.
I don’t think Nazis would have seen it that way. After all, most Jewish people those camps were pretty pale…
Spain was literally under fascist rule at the same time as Germany and Italy.
They literally funded Francisco Franco
I’m sure they used other countries like a tool, but it doesn’t mean they saw them as equals.
Well yeah but they notoriously didn’t see anyone but Germans as equals
Exactly. This Fuentes guy is trying to join a club that would immediately deny him admission. He really needs to self reflect. Everyone should be laughing at him.
But he isn’t trying to join the NSDAP. He’s an American neo-nazi. They’re more closely affiliated with the know nothings and KKK if anything. American whiteness is their thing. Frankly they’d probably be more supportive of his family than mine because my family immigrated (from Germany) not crazy long ago. Will they eat him? Of course, but more because that’s just what they do
The KKK hated Catholics and would burn crosses on their lawns before chasing them out of town in the 1960’s. He has a Spanish last name, and you think he has ties to the KKK? Spain is heavily Catholic. The KKK would be burning a cross on his family’s lawn.
I come from a Catholic family that lived in the South.
https://www.nytimes.com/1974/12/16/archives/klan-to-let-catholics-and-immigrants-join.html
I guess that was their belated apology for having burned a cross on the lawn of their distant Catholic relatives. You gotta love the South.
What's wild is the South had way too much power and have spread their backwardness internationally.
Seriously. Try visiting a foreign country and asking for a Pepsi. The closer you get to the equator, the more likely they don’t sell Pepsi. They have Coca-cola, though.
Holy fuck, open a history book.
I don’t think Hitler viewed the Spanish as equals. That’s all I’m saying.
Is there any evidence for this?
Spain didn't fight in the war but there was a sizable Spanish SS division fighting for germany, although pretty much every European country and ethnicity had an people fighting on German side.
The fact that Spain allowed a Muslim mosque to be built across from Cathedral of Saint Mary the Royal of the Almudena just makes me question it. Also, the fact that Hitler was NOT Catholic, makes me think he wouldn’t consider a country of Catholics and Muslims to be on the same level as his people. Hitler’s plan for a master race was to make a race of blond haired, blue eyed people; traits of Norway and Sweden. I will never understand Hitler on that one. He was a short, O+ male, with dark hair who wanted everyone to resemble tall, broad shouldered, blond haired, blue eyed, people who typically have an rh- blood type. I’m surprised the man didn’t throw himself into one of those camps.