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The sole purpose of this community is to discuss Israeli and Palestinian issues. It is not the place for hurling insults, rehashing grudges, or making up history. Any conversation that veers into the "if only your people had" realm will be deleted or locked right away. I started this community in the potentially fruitless hope that we may have a civil conversation about this issue.

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  1. References to historical events must include a reputable source. The definition of reputable is up to the mods. Keep that in mind.
  2. Articles from reputable sources only.
  3. No name-calling. That's what DMs are for. /s
  4. Keep it in English. If I don't understand the word, it gets removed. Obvious exceptions would be the use of proper names and references. For example, "wadi" when used to refer to a place is acceptable.
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  6. Repeat offenders will be forced to find another community.
  7. Anti-Zionism is ok. Anti-Semitism is not.
  8. Whataboutism is for toddlers. Try to grow up.
  9. Posting articles about current events is encouraged. Posting the same story from 20 different sources is not.
  10. Posting an article purely for the purpose of saying "Look what monsters they are" is discouraged unless it can generate an honest discussion. This is probably the most difficult rule to follow.
  11. No calling anyone a terrorist.
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22133834

Retired Jewish professor Haim Bresheeth, a child of Holocaust survivors and founder of the Jewish Network for Palestine, was arrested under a UK anti-terrorism law after speaking at a recent pro-Palestinian protest in London.

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How to talk to Israel supporters (www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22035706

Sat 2 Mar 2024

"Alex McDonald’s When They Speak Israel, reviewed here by Steve Grant, explains to all of us how to engage. His basic assumption is that while some Zionists are dyed-in-the-wool racists or ethnonationalists, most are not. They sincerely believe they oppose racism but have been taught that support for Israel is justified — if not a solemn moral duty."

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Fascinating episode from Einat Wilf's podcast in reference to an article she co-wrote with two Arabs who support peaceful coexistence with Israel shortly after the Abraham Accords were signed. The most interesting part of the discussion comes up at around 10:15 where she talks about the silencing of voices like these by Western progressives. The tl/dr: Pro-peace Arab voices are silenced by Western progressives because that perspective conflicts with their decolonization anti-Zionist narrative, so these voices hurt the cause.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21665513

By world-outlook.com on October 19, 2024

[part 2 of an interview originally published in Jacobin, along with an introduction, additional links, photos, and endnotes]

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In light of events following the previous post, it is almost certain shelling of the UN peacekeepers camp was not an accident from attacking nearby hezbollah tunnels.

The UN forces are the target of the Israeli army, as bulldozers usually dont accidentally show up in a warzone to specifically bulldoze a UN watch tower.

Oct 20 (Reuters) - The U.N. peacekeeping force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) said in a statement that an Israeli army bulldozer had demolished an observation tower and perimeter fence of a U.N. position in Marwahin in southern Lebanon on Sunday.
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Their reasonings isn't making the slightest sense at all, so unless the article forgot to mention something entirely, this is rediculous.

Follow up post: https://lemmy.world/post/21092844

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Paris Marx is joined by Spencer Ackerman to discuss the past year of Israel's actions in Palestine and the innovations in war technology being used to carry out what the ICJ has deemed a "plausible" genocide in Gaza.

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The Israeli occupation forces have extended their genocidal campaign in Gaza to the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Using drone strikes, troops in armored vehicles and bulldozers, their regular raids since October 7, 2023, have escalated into extensive and deadly attacks. Between August 28 and September 6, Israel launched “Operation Summer Camps,” a major military invasion, in the northern West Bank. “We watched their bulldozers tear up streets, demolish businesses, pharmacies, schools. They even bulldozed the town soccer field, and a tree in the middle of a road,” Kamal Abu al-Rub, the governor of Jenin, told The New York Times.

In this exclusive interview for Truthout, Miranda Cleland, advocacy officer for Defense for Children International-Palestine (DCIP), explains how Israel’s vicious assault in the West Bank is increasingly targeting children. A Palestinian human rights organization based in Ramallah, DCIP is a plaintiff in a federal lawsuit against U.S. President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin for complicity in genocide and failure to prevent genocide in Gaza.

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Gaza has been a hurtful experience. This year we saw the passing of a milestone, 100 years without a central leadership. The last Ottoman Caliphate, with all its faults, remained a global force and acted as a shield for this ummah. So why have we declined to such a degree that it seems our leadership is inept and our ummah has not moved over Gaza. And what now can we do about it? Dr Tareq al-Suwaidan is a prolific writer, speaker, trainer and in many ways has brought much needed intellectual thought to our age.

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365 days of relentless Israeli bombardment have led to one of the deadliest conflicts of the 21st century. The offensive began on 7 October 2023, following an unprecedented attack by Hamas. Members of Al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of the group, and other Palestinian resistance fighters infiltrated Israeli territory by air, land, and sea. On that day, 1,139 Israelis, including soldiers and police officers, were killed. Additionally, 251 people—Israeli and foreign nationals—were taken captive. In response, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared war on Hamas, vowing to 'eliminate' the group, unleashing a war of vengeance that broke records in both scale and brutality. Al Jazeera reflects on the pivotal events of 7 October 2023.

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When political leaders speak of genocide, they repeat a timeworn mantra: "Never again."

Over the past year, for the Palestinians of Gaza, "again" has become reality - mass casualties broadcast almost in real time by its victims.

This film is about an alternative version of that reality - the one told by major Western news organisations - and how it has provided cover for Israel's war on Gaza.

Based on interviews with more than a dozen insiders, it lifts the curtain on the inner workings of agenda-setting outlets like CNN, the BBC and The New York Times.

Contributors: "Adam" – journalist, CNN "Sara" – former journalist, BBC Ghassan Abu Sitta – reconstructive surgeon Jodi Rudoren – former Jerusalem bureau chief, The New York Times Jeremy Scahill – co-founder, Drop Site News Craig Mokhiber – former senior human rights official, United Nations

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The Path Forward is a new documentary that weaves together the voices of Palestinians and Israelis in their efforts for peace and reconciliation. The short film features the stories of Israeli and Palestinian peace activists who have worked together before and after October 7 and Israel’s relentless war on Gaza. We play excerpts from The Path Forward and speak to one of the activists featured, Aziz Abu Sarah, as well as to co-director Julie Cohen. “People who believe that war is the only way, what scares them the most is people who are modeling a different future,” says Abu Sarah. “Our route to freedom is a joint route.

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