Hexbear response

Highlights

longpost from a hexbear chapo

Dude unironically wrote an essay about why Hexbear shouldn't be defederated lmao.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2392627

another hexbear essaypost from a chapoid

https://lemm.ee/comment/2389222

I really have no problem with communist or leftist views, but some of those guys need to take a chill pill. I’m cool with bashing the fash and social welfare programs, I’m not cool with basically talking about how everyone to the right of Stalin needs to die or how Tianenmen Square was a wholesale fabrication by the west. I typically just roll my eyes, block the bullshit and move on with life, but it’s been really dragging down my lemmy experience.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2388996

Is asking, Does Ukraine really have a neo-Nazi problem?, make me a poopin puppet?

https://lemm.ee/comment/2390983

Kremlin propaganda Okay what is meant by this because I have literally no idea

like, you had previously thought communist symbolism in general was Kremlin propaganda, before it was pointed out otherwise. So what still applies to the term? Any defense of modern russia? defense of the USSR? militant communism in general? Revolutionary Marxism? Its a blanket term that doesn’t seem to be fully defined in this post. I would like it if someone clarified this. [another chapo]

https://lemm.ee/comment/2388361

Good, I like having them around. They give the fediverse the spice of life that prevents it from becoming just another necrotic pool of internet backwash filled with stale memes and pandering comments like what late Digg became and what reddit has been turning into.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2388188

My view is that this federation of theirs is just sketchy. Their announcement post reads as some barely veiled call to propagandize the Fediverse, and the instance itself seems almost proud in a way to have developed their particular methods in their isolation. Though from what I’ve seen, those methods are mostly just whataboutism and “just asking questions”, not anything particularly novel.

If there was much content or interaction from them that was just neutral, it’d be much easier to swallow, but everything they post or comment always seems be a dog whistle at minimum. And maybe I’m just not noticing all the users not doing that, but the ones I do notice are all over.

All in all, I’d be more in favor of defederation. I’ve seen enough of this from the right already to have an idea of where this is going, and barring a larger effort from the instance to change, would rather it just got nipped in the bud.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2387127

I initially started using lemm.ee when joing the fediverse. Once you federated hexbear I left for lemmy.world within days, not really because I wanted to but because I felt I had to. I was being harassed because of a single comment that received over 100 responses. None of them were constructive arguments or legitimate discussion, all just trolling and insults. Lemm.ee is not usable anymore as a result of federating hexbear. I’m sure I’m far from the only user who feels that way. If you want lemm.ee to continue to be a viable instance there is no other choice.

Think about this way: f they were acting this way while promoting fascism, you wouldn’t even have a discussion post, you would just defederate. Because they claim to be communist and left-wing (though their actually still promoting fascism) you feel the need to deliberate. Just do the thing that you already know has to be done. Stop dragging it out.

Of course that comment was from a lemmy.world user

https://lemm.ee/comment/2388921

Ok fascist [-17]

https://lemm.ee/comment/2388921

Keeping hexbear is like keeping Nazis on the site.

If you go for freedom of speech and the ideals of fediverse then fine. I’m not against that ideal.

But don’t treat these people different to any other extremist just because they are left and not right.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2390974

WORDS WORDS WORDS from a lemmyworld user talking about muh positivity

https://lemm.ee/comment/2384841

Banning state propaganda is great, but why limit that ban to Kremlin propaganda? US propaganda is just as, if not more, prevelent and toxic. The narrative surrounding the destruction of the Nord Stream is a good example:

American corporate media and government officials were calling for its destruction and outright threatening to blow it up for months prior to the actual attack. Immediately after its destruction, the corporate news outlets and government officials that had been calling for that very action acted as though they had never done so and presented a unified front that blamed Russia for the attack. Doing some critical thinking and realizing that Russia had neither the opportunity nor the motive to blow up their own pipeline is not Kremlin propaganda. Continuing that critical thinking and realizing that the US had both motive and opportunity, and was a likely culprit because they had repeatedly threatened to blow up the pipeline is not Kremlin propaganda. Shutting down all discussion critical of the US by dismissing it as Russian bots is US propaganda.

Another hexbear user doing a whataboutism

https://lemm.ee/comment/2384362

I’ve seen more posts complaining about Hexbear than actual objectionable things they’ve done. Maybe that’s a sign of effective moderation, but in general I agree that defederation should always be a very last resort, and it doesn’t feel like we’re even close.

Also, with the ability for users to block instances coming soon, I think everyone will be happy then. At least, users anyway, it will still be down to the admin team to determine if the moderation workload is excessive and act accordingly - but that decision is and should be up to you.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2379576

Another longpost from a hexbear chapo

https://lemm.ee/comment/2379932

One thing to also take into consideration is the very pro Chinese government slant by many of the users. Many there claim China is a democracy. While I have not seen Uyghur genocide denial there, I also don’t peruse hexbear threads very often. That is something that needs to be looked out for.

As for federation with them? Their stuff is annoying af but blocking their communities has removed most of their shit from my feed.

Edit: well some of them were nice enough to bring the genocide denial to me. Thanks for that. I didn’t really feel like seeking it out.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2380177

Actually had my first conversation with hexbear the other day. Accidentally came from /all and didn’t realize what kind of sub I was in. While I don’t really have their same beliefs, it was interesting to see things from another point of view. Had a swing of upvotes and downvotes as to be expected.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2379341

I posted a comment in the_dunk_tank without noticing where I was. While many people were heated over what I said, it was a misunderstanding due to a lack of specificity and ignorance on my part. After I clarified what I was intending to say, discussion ensued and it was ended on good terms.

The vast majority of users I interact with from hexbear are thoughtful, insightful, kind and genuine individuals that care deeply about humanity and moving forward. The hate that they have is for fascism and actual fascists.

To defederate hexbear would be a disservice to the idea of federated social media.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2368776

Stating that my people (and other Baltic nations) are subhuman

As a member of Hexbear for 3+ years I just want to say that this isn’t acceptable over here and would land people with a very serious reprimand or a permaban if they don’t admit to being in the wrong for this. The use of “subhuman” in particular is fascist behaviour and I’d assume it is wreckers rather than longstanding members, it’s not language that socialists are fond of.

The only other thing I will say is that I genuinely appreciate that you’re building this community with your userbase and having these conversations, it’s the correct way to create a unique community culture and have people care about the space.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2365343

anpther fucking WORDS WORDS post with 120+ replies

https://lemm.ee/comment/2371817

Props for staying calm throughout all this. The initial rush of excitement seems to be pretty much over, which means things ought to mellow down on the timeline. I’m sure Hexbear can coexist with the fediverse the same way /r/cth coexisted with reddit, which is to say by showing up and ballin’ for Marx and pushing the boundaries of acceptability. Except this time there are no ad revenue sources to placate by banning anything outside of the Overton window.

I can totally understand your strong feelings towards the USSR. I understand you’ve conceded that the hammer and sickle isn’t strictly soviet symbology and can represent other things, but I would like to ask you whether or not you would think of the “stars and stripes” or the “union jack” (or really most western iconography) as hate speech given the centuries of pillaging, rape, genocide and dehumanization that they represent in many parts of the world.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2370776

Another longpost I'm not copying

https://lemm.ee/comment/2366056

Don’t defederate from hexbear, they aren’t that bad.

They aren’t great, it’s like a bunch of very confident college kids refusing to listen to anything that challenges their beliefs. There is a high percentage of trolls, but it’s the Internet. I’ve seen some shockingly bad takes, like tiananmen square had no casualties, or as highlighted by this thread, criticism of the USSRs well documented atrocities is tantamount to Holocaust denial.

Just ignore them and move on.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2382965

Stating that my people (and other Baltic nations) are subhuman

Oh, that’s includes a now deleted comment of mine. Yes, i admit i got a bit overboard here. I wanted only to highlight a certain political tendency in the region. rather than make a blanket statement about any nationalities and ethnicities. It really came out wrong. And while i don’t really care whatever this instance defederates or not, here i must apologize since i was clearly in the wrong. I should only dunk on people for what they do, not what they are.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2368176

The lack of a sense of place by Hexbears by absolutely flooding this comment thread is the full and sole reason for me to fully support defederation. Lemm.ee is our server, our rules, made by people on the lemm.ee server. The fact that they feel the need to comment and respond on everything says enough about them.

And no, you’re not being attacked so that you have the right to defend yourself. Federation is not a right.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2375519

Longpost from an admin

https://lemm.ee/comment/2365580

Unrelated, but honest doubt… because I know nothing about Hexbear and I’m very confused trying to tie the “for the lulz”/trolling behaviour, communism/leftism and Kremlin propaganda together. The modus operandi seems that of bigots/racists/fascists all over the internet which might relate to Kremlin propaganda, but I’m having a hard time figuring out where communism/leftism fits in here. Is Hexbear a former left-wing “forum” now taken over by fascist trolls? If someone might care to explain I’d appreciate it.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2373979

Glad to read this.

Appreciate your approach.

Personally I’ve seen a lot of hexbear commenters out for blood, seemingly very ready to argue and name-call. Also I’ve seen many comments and some posts suggesting lemm.ee is for racists.

I assume that is just the “wreckers” someone mentioned.

I don’t believe this instance is racist and I don’t believe hexbear is all propagandists and lunatics, but I must admit I’ve been readily blocking subs of theirs. They honestly just seem quite angry with the world and the west. Sometimes for good reason, but sometimes so reflexively it comes off as Russian or Chinese bot posting.

I could be wrong with my personal reflex, but that engagement isn’t why I’m on Lemmy at all.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2365985

I’ve been in touch with you personally regarding this, and the evidence of mass brigading, trolling, and their toxicity is abound. just check the modlog, especially for political subs where they especially love to brigade and bully.

the only change they will make is the volume and frequency of their toxic bullying and trolling. keep his instance safe and defederate.

Bartender explains why he swiftly kicks out Nazis even if they’re ‘not bothering anyone’

https://lemm.ee/comment/2366955

I would say defederate as I see little value in their content. Let those who seek out extreme content go to that server for it. It is just Nazism wearing a different hat.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2370676

Wait? Hexbear is leftist? I’m super liberal and my impression of that instance was another pack of Trumpers. Maybe they were brigaded but it’s been nothing hit a cesspool. I’ve been trying to use Sync settings to block @hexbear. I vote defederate.

https://lemm.ee/comment/2375260

Defederating hexbear seems like a weak move.

I do think you’re gonna have to develop a very explicit and clear line for what constitutes kremlin propaganda though. That or just go full “this is an anti-Russia instance and that includes all current and former states”. [-17]

https://lemm.ee/comment/2369699

I demand a Quote & Link to the Subhuman claim you try to collectiv guilt us over …

( its not the epicempenada quote/ copypaste isnt it ? ) [-1]

https://hexbear.net/comment/3752988

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3292156

https://twitter.com/suuuoppp/status/1691693740254228741

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/2EVQl

TLDR : "I was expected to do too much work" "my time at this company brought my mental health to an all time low"

"My work was called "dogshit" I was called "incompetent""

"I had been inappropriately grabbed multiple times in the office"

For those unaware of the current happenings : Steve from Gamer's Nexus made a video exposing that a lot of LTT's videos were full of wrong data (nonsensical 300% performance gaps between GPUs), wrong testing methodology (forgetting to remove the protective peel off of the bottom of the mouse and then complaining that the mouse feels like shit to use), straight up murdering a startup by using their product wrong, saying that it doesn't work, and then selling their prototype on an auction without their permission (which probably resulted in their competitors buying it and copying the product) and a bunch of other stuff.

Watch it here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc

Linus then made a really shitty response on the forum, including a line - "we didn't 'sell' the startup's prototype, but rather auctioned it". You can read his response here (first half of the video) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3byz3txpso

Some responses:

i can't believe I used to like Linus, the fucking rat bastard

Linus Tech Tips sounds like an awful place to work.

This is the craziest thread I have ever seen, LMG is made out to be an out-of-the-box thinking, progressive and accepting company.

Reminder that LMG is also a sweatshop tier employer that don't give a flying fuck about their employees. Reddit thread : https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15shets/madison_speaks_out_on_the_working_conditions_she/

They posted a response

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cTpTMl8kFY

Nothing about the lady's allegations, only addressing the Gamer's Nexus stuff

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3288810

Empress's response (Reddit): https://old.reddit.com/r/CrackWatch/comments/15ssekk/empress_response_to_skidrow/

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3248139

The setting

So this past weekend, the Pokemon World Championship happened in Japan. It's where the ~~biggest nerds~~ best players gather to compete for the title of world champion in the various Pokemon games. The oldest and probably most prestigious of these contests is VGC - the video game championship. It's exactly what you'd expect: people use the newest mainline games (Scarlet and Violet at this time), bring six mons and battle each other. For reasons only The Pokemon Company (TPC) understands, instead of using these six mons to battle one-on-one as most players would suspect and as 99% of these games play, the VGC format is choose-four-out-of-six and use them in a double battle (2-on-2). While this is a bit of a tangent, the important takeway is this: TPC does not particularly care about competitive play, it does not have its finger on the pulse of the community and is frankly pretty much incompetent when it comes to handling the biggest media franchise on the planet.

But this year, they did something truly heinous - they actually tried to stop cheating.

Gotta catch 'em all - or do you?

Competitive Pokemon has a bunch of boring rules, but the relevant one for this drama is one that has existed in a form similar to this since the very beginning:

As a little background, Pokemon games have been hacked for a long time. And as early as 2002 (probably earlier, not gonna bother checking), people figured out what 0s and 1s you need to build a little monster. This resulted in programs like PokeGen, where you can easily generate (or "gen" as it will be commonly called) a Pokemon with whatever moves, abilities and stats you want with the click of a button. I really cannot overstate how simple this process is. Naturally, this is a big help for people really serious about battling: no need to bother with all that tedious catching, training and breeding of perfect Pokemon, you can just cheat and get them instantly. Of course this goes against the spirit of the series and the fairness of the competition, hence the rule against manipulated mons. And surely TPC with all its money and influence is very serious about checking and enforcing this rule, right? Well, no. In its usual incompetence, TPC did little to nothing to inspect for manipulated mons. Aside from checking if your Charizard has Hydro Pump, they really didn't care. And without punishment, people started cheating. A lot. Here is someone analysing teams from last year showing just how widespread cheating had become, especially in the West:

Note that these checks could easily been done by TPC itself to stop the most obvious offenses, but they choose not do that. Until this year.

TPC, in a move I can only assume was sheer coincidence, actually realised that as part of their relatively new Pokemon Home service (a storage for all your Pokemon to move them between games), they 'tag' Pokemon that have been stored. Among other things, this tag can tell if a Pokemon had its stats changed in an impossible way since Home last saw it and, perhaps more importantly, it also shows that any mon that would require a transfer through Home (such as those only available in older games) yet lacks a Home tag was obviously injected into the game through illegtimate means. And for once, they actually used the tools at their disposal to check for cheating. And the result was LOTS of top players getting disqualified.

The drama or "what do you mean I can't cheat?!"

Now in any other game, you'd think that cheaters getting ousted is a good thing and the community would celebrate. But not in the VGC community. Almost 20 years of almost completely punishment-free cheating have made the practice so widespread and accepted, players actually grew entitled to it. Here's one demanding respect for his noble non-effort:

Got disqualified from worlds last round on 4-2, I cannot stop crying. So many effort put in this season for literally nothing, cancelling the open less than 1 month before worlds + this new hack check last minute way its no sense. We spend money for this, we need RESPECT.

most prepared VGC player:

Well that's silly, surely there are more reasonable takes. Ah yes, this looks better.

DQ’d at 2-0. Should have gotten my mons myself!

Half my team was modified/genned

I didn’t have Legends of Arceus to get the Lando

And I didn’t have my copy of Sword/Shield to get Urshifu

I tried trading for the mons with a reputable trader, but the mons didn’t pass

Here’s the paste I was gonna use, sorry y’all. I’ll do better next time

Time to enjoy my time in Japan!

Just calm acceptance, surely a role model for the com-

Anyone else down to go on strike this upcoming season?

If numbers of competitions go down, they might try to come up with a solution to increase player attendance.

What we want is genning to be legal.

We know that Pokémon can’t do this with the primary genning method being a third party software.

Ideally this forces them to come up with a solution.

This solution may involve changing the rules to allow modified Pokémon or creating a battle simulator game.

If enough people are on this idea, we can consistently send support tickets to demand the changes we want to see.

This is a lot to ask, and we as a community would need to work together to make this happen if we really want genning to be official.

LET US CHEAT OR WE STRIKE

A bunch of people sympathetic towards cheaters because, you know, they paid money to be there and stuff and obviously nothing is their fault

No shade at all. It’s just insane to me that someone could probably spend over $5000 to travel and stay in Japan. Just to get disqualified for genned Pokémon.

I honestly feel awful for the people who spend $1000s to compete at Worlds to then just get DQ’d.

I understand fair play absolutely but I just can’t help but feeling bad for those who legit didn’t even know they owned genned Pokémon.

This situation sucks for everyone involved.

Some true competitors display a real sigma grindset and try to get legit mons at the event at the last second:

(this is not actually the context of this image but it popped off and is funny so there you have it)

Now as people kept bitching about being disqualified and it started to cause a fuss on ~~twitter~~ X, naturally a lot of more casual observers became involved. And of course, those more casual observers saw people cheating, saw they got disqualified and started to wonder just what exactly the problem was here? Isn't this supposed to happen? Our brave competitors were brave to adapt of course - they needed a justification. And they found one in accessability. Clearly, expecting people to actually go through the effort to catch and train your mons legitimately is totally unreasonable:

Sorry, TCPi, we don’t live in the anime world so no one is gonna treat competing in Pokémon like a full time job and grind thousands of hours for their perfect team.

Expecting people to put some time into their hobby when they're trying to be the best in the world?! Oh the audacity!

Aside from the time investment, a bunch of people also tried to argue that's it's just way too expensive to compete. It costs like, 200 bucks a year. Who can possibly afford that for a hobby?

But again, people quickly pointed out that a person buying tickets to fly to tournaments all around the world can probably also afford to actually buy the fucking games they wish to compete in and that the Pokemon games have made it increasingly easy to build a competitive team. Gone are the days were your IVs (your Pokemon's genes, basically) were set in stone. Every game throws more shit at you that makes catching and training mons in exactly the way you want more and more accessible. But our brave cheaters have an answer to everything:

"It takes 30 mins to make a legit team"

🔹soft resets for specific 0 IVs on legendaries

🔹need certain 0 IV Dittos for a specific IV

🔹EV train all 6 Pokémon

🔹Grinding for Tera Shards (need 50 btw)

🔹For a shiny, hatch 100+ eggs

This takes 30 mins? Yeah aight

Note: Shininess makes a Pokemon have an unusual color and is completely irrelevant in battle. While I'm sure this person included this in jest, it's still very funny to include it in your super serious list to justify cheating.

And if all else fails, there's always one completely bulletproof defense - "who cares lmao"

Making the game more inaccessible is horrendous for the game. If people’s Pokémon stats are legit and it doesn’t alter game play at all, who cares how they got it.

DQing people at worlds with suddenly stricter rules is such a bad look. So sorry to all who were affected.

I would say cheaters getting banned is a very good look for any game, but that's just me.

the Pokemon VGC discourse is so laughably charged like do u think Ray Rizzo was the best player of his era out of skill or because he was REALLY good at hatching eggs

Yeah man who cares that training and building your team is supposed to be part of the competition. He clicked the buttons so shut up.

Pokémon company or whoever needs to stop crying about this hacked mons shit. Grow up and let the players play man

No blunder not you too I actually really like your content. Though he hasn't played an actual mainline game in a decade so it's expected I guess

I genuinely cannot fathom going to Pokémon worlds and getting fucking disqualified because your perfectly legal Pokémon with completely valid stats wasn't "caught and rained with love uwu" like who cares!!!!! And then some people had them and weren't even aware!!! It's unfair lol

The pokemon were hecking cute and valid so who cares!!!

Though that last post raised an interesting point, which others also noticed - you could get disqualified for using a Pokemon someone traded with you, not knowing it's illegitimate. But how could this happen? Surely there's a way for you to check if your Pokemon is legit? Surely TPC would prohibit these trades and use the same checks it uses for tournaments to also check mons ingame?

As it turns out, TPC in their endless incompetence just tells people to not use one of the core features and selling points of the franchise - trading:

Just a little side note to keep you updated in the stellar performance of TPC to do anything.

Side drama

Not content with only one dramatic event, TPC really raised the bar this weekend by also failing to properly set up their consoles, leading to disconnects and sudden deaths.

And to top it all off, at the end of the event they announced the location for the world championship next year - HAWAII

Aside from people feeling it is somewhat poor timing, it also lead to a sizeable donation from TPC to the hawaiian recovery. Of course, this also invinted the usual suspects to tell people to boycott the event because the natives hate tourism and it ruined their island and imperialism and all that stuff. You know the drill, typical twitter lefty stuff. Not really unique to Pokemon so I don't wanna get into it. Knock yourself out if you really care.

Conclusion

/vp/, 4chan's Pokemon board, summed it up like this:

spoiler due to slur

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In my personal opinion, this is a good move. While I sympathise with the people who really only care about battling, the fact of the matter is that Pokemon games ship as monster catching, training and battling games. The first two aspects are kind of a big deal. Gotta catch 'em all is the fucking tagline (or was). If you truly don't enjoy these aspects, that's too bad. Pokemon Showdown is a pretty popular Pokemon battle simulator. Just play there if you don't want to bother with the rest. Of course, then you lack the prestige of the official Pokemon world champion, but guess what? If you want to be the best Pokemon trainer, you need to actually train your Pokemon. That's the fantasy these games are selling. Deal with it.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3249941

Highlights:

Chadmins are also banning everyone for saying they're leaving

What surprises me is that people think making a community specifically for illegal activity isn’t a problem, and that they should only be called on their behaviour when a copyright holder notices them. There are plenty of places to go for piracy online, so what’s the need to add a community for it here? Or are you people claiming a piracy community wasn’t primarily intended for piracy?

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426956

Time to host my own instance. I disagree with this move.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2429393

The people whining are not the people that could face multimillion-dollar lawsuits over the issue. Like it or not, media companies are powerful and will go after websites seen as promoting piracy. Do what you reasonably have to do.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426973

Oh no. Wtf. Do you know what’s funny? I actually joined this instance from piracy subreddit.

I guess it’s time to leave.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2425186

I don’t think this was the right call. Don’t have it hosted on here, fine. But defederated? I don’t see how being federated would be an issue at all. Oh well guess i got to actively go seek them out now.

At this rate, you might as well as defederate from all instances. Cant be too careful.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2427348

Bootlicker [-8]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2427940

These communities are not even hosted on lemmy.world, this is an absurdly overreacted response. There were no signs of any legal trouble and I can’t understand how lemmy.world specifically would be the target of such legal action. If you want to host an instance, you should do everything in your power to allow discussions on any topic, while in necessary cases disallowing direct posting/linking of illegal content. Instead, you chose to block a community that has long been known to avoid having any trouble with the moderators.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421890

Doesn’t matter if they are hosted here or not. The way federation works is that threads on different instances are cached locally.

We have NO issues with the people at db0 - we are just looking out for ourselves in a ‘better safe than sorry’ fashion while we find out more. As mentioned in the OP we would like to unblock as soon as we know we can not get in any legal trouble. [chadmins]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421890

What the absolute hell? What makes this place so good is that there’s not people making idiot decisions at the top. This is an idiot decision. Plus side of the fediverse is vanishing.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424687

Uh, @[email protected] … what’s up with the banning going on in this thread? I noticed on a.lemmy.org that someone was labeled “banned” and their comment was simply “Ight, I’m out”

The mod note was “Let us help you”.

There are more similarly weak (spiteful?) bans that certainly don’t seem to be at a standard for a ban. “Litterally 1984” was another one. Is that all it takes to be banned here?

Edit: Many (all?) the users I referenced as banned are now unbanned from the site, but now banned from this community. :marseyban:

https://lemmy.world/comment/2422473

Please make announcements on lemmy instead of exclusively on discord moving forward. That is the biggest issue here, the lack of public transparency. Such a decision affects all instances, not just lemmy.world and making it publicly known is important

This was a misunderstanding from one of the team members. It has since been discussed and will not happen again. Lemmy.World and this announcement community is our primary platform, [chadmin]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421280

And once again we have people thinking that the instance owners would have to discuss everything they want to do with them and get the approval of everyone. It’s already great that they’re making announcements instead of doing it silently until people notice on their own. Plus, it’s not hard to make an account elsewhere if you don’t like it here. I doubt you’re restricted to this single instance.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424187

Ight, I’m out

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421940

Surely there is a discussion to be had around what is and isn’t allowed, there are plenty of subreddits discussing piracy without dolirect links that are playing within the rules.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2420730

fucking hell, its time to leave lemmy.world, you are no better than reddit :marseysnoo:

Says the redditor

https://lemmy.world/comment/2422227

What is the legal theory being used here?

People chatting about piracy is now a crime in US? I thought the crime was uploading or downloading copyrighted content…

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421667

Lovely this happened because someone complained after being banned from the piracy instance for being a transphobic asshole. :marseytransplushie3:

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421151

Yea, I’m leaving. Not as a protest, I just want access to something without caring if devs like it or not.

All hail Piracy!

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421558

Well said! I think the entire LW community would prefer a heads up for major actions. It’s understandable that piracy could lead to liability issues which none of us want. Thanks for giving us a run down.

https://lemmy.world/comment/2420912

Is it a liability when the discussion happened outside of lemmy.world?

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421575

Deleting lemmy now I guess as well [-3]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2424715

Wtf? I’m leaving.

Is there a way to migrate a community? [-3]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2428100

I’m sure this comment will receive plenty of hate, but I’m really struggling to understand why piracy seems to get so staunchly defended by seemingly everyone here. Piracy is stealing. It is morally wrong. We can argue all day about how it’s a ‘victimless crime’ or how media conglomerates are greedy and deserve it, but at the end of the day there’s nothing that makes it ‘right’. With maybe a few exceptions, no one needs the things they’re pirating and it’s just childish to refuse to pay for content and go on pretending it’s a necessity. What needs to happen is more money going to the creators whose content we all enjoy so much.

There’s plenty of places to go where you can still interact with these communities, and we shouldn’t be surprised that a large and general instance wants to be distant from them. Personally I applaud the decision. [-6]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2426834

Literally 1984 [-14]

https://lemmy.world/comment/2421877

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3191819

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/3305498

After a thread was made in [email protected] asking to defederate from lemmy.dbzer0.com for "the facilitation of piracy, and copyright infringement in general which is illegal", the admins of lemmy.world deleted it prompting discussions on !asklemmy[@]lemmy.ml and !piracy[@]lemmy.dbzer0.com.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3100814

random youtuber?

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SRDine named CressCrowbits really spills over his drink over his hate boner towards a dead man, so much so that he purposefully posts misinformation.

Others soon join the gamingcircl...I'm sorry - drama

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3095639

cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/2732891

Cross-posted from [email protected]

Hi there,

I have decided to take down waveform.social. There are too many nefarious actors trying to break it and I don't have the time or energy to keep fighting them off.

For your information: Over the pas month I have had to:

1. Add various DDOS prevention measures to block unwanted (repeated) signups.
2. Delete a bunch of literal white noise uploads that filled my 4TB picture storage... Twice.
3. Repair Lemmy (or rather pictures) after it crashed because of full storage.

I will keep waveform.social active until Friday next week so you can pull data from here, though I expect most of it has been federated to other servers anyway.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3089060

The Stackoverflow mod strike has finally been resolved and mod are back to work on full pay. The negotiation process was handled in typically "formal fashion", involving representatives from both the mod team and paid SO employees, with formal agendas and outcomes from each meeting. The official post Moderation strike: Results of negotiations is nearly 3000 words long, I didn't read any of it. One of the mods summarised it in another post, the juciest bit looks like:

The AI policy change retracted and subsequently changed to a degree that addresses the expressed concerns and empowers moderators to enforce the established policy of forbidding generated content on the platform.

Basically mods are allowed to use AI tools to detect posts that are suspected to have been written by AI, and sanction the poster accordingly. This is kind of confusing given the mods are staunchly against AI being used anywhere on SO, but are happy to use it to moderate.

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I will reiterate for the 10th time that SO does not need mods - bad posts get downvoted and automatically hidden. There has been no difference in the quality of SO with them on strike (even though actually they've just kept moderating anyway 1, 2). SO should have used this strike as an opportunity to get rid of mods and replace them with a handful of paid professional mods. The jannies waste all of their time on pointless metadrama and cause more problems than they solve.

Someone else asks in yet another Meta post Is Stack Overflow back to normal moderation?. Powerjannie Zoe (you don't have to ask, you already know that they are) replies:

Personally, I'm taking an extended break after the strike from moderation for motivation reasons. She needs motivation to return to her unpaid job.

Additionally, we have a backlog of currently 6300 flags, and it takes time to get through all that.

There's also non-mod curators involved, where there's a similar pattern; some are back, some quit, some are taking an extended break (some of which to wait for SE to follow through on their promises before making a decision on what to do), some are on vacation, some have reduced their activity, etc. All the major organisations (Charcoal, SOCVR, and SOBotics) are active again.

That's right, SO modding involves a nested organisation including sub-organisations.

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Let's finish with a comment from one mod who's still striking:

I checked reviews page (in incognito mode, to eliminate impact of my own reviews)]

Sounds like they're really striking hard.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3067039

I think any sane person annoyed by it just turned the game off because it's the preseason, but these are diehards. After reading these threads I'm on their side though, just because they're less annoying than the scolds.

I'm a trained storm spotter, so maybe I have a different perspective,

It may save a life. That's more important than a preseason game that is still on.

I get you guys want to watch, and I do too, but I'm happy to sacrifice listening to two announcers I don't care for if it means someone, somewhere, realizes they are in danger. Tornados aren't something to fuck around with, even EF0's can do serious harm. Better be safe than sorry... how are we even discussing this? People's lives could be in danger,

Love the purple outfit and how it enhances your boobs, but……….GET OFF MY TV!!!! IT’S FOOTBALL SEASON!

Some people are illiterate. Probably more than you think. So tickers aren't good enough.

And it is just a game which you watching will not change the outcome of.

But someone finding out there is a tornado might save their life.

Other threads:

https://www.reddit.com/r/detroitlions/comments/15oqndu/holy_shit_someone_stop_this_weather_forecast_fuck/

https://www.reddit.com/r/detroitlions/comments/15oqo5x/poor_coverage/

https://www.reddit.com/r/detroitlions/comments/15orbm0/for_all_those_upset_about_weather_reporting/

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1456092

It is still frequently mentioned on Reddit and social media to this day.

Here is the post copied w/archive links so you don't give spez traffic:

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Greetings my delicious petite pooties!

It was decided from GAWD above that all zoomers must be eradicated from our hallowed halls so our fabby bot master set up a presh computer robot to ban everyone that has ever posted (a healthy amount of comments) in r/Teenagers. How fun! We did our bestests to make sure that we weren't just banning randos that found their way there from r/all and really did a super duper job of making sure that we were banning consistent users of that subreddit. We don't want any of those pesky zoomer scums in our pristine internet forum, now do we?

Our ban message simply said "Underage" and we got a lot of responses, mostly from people declaring that they are totes adults, namely - middled aged people.

We. Got. So. Many responses from people that are way too old to be posting r/Teenagers that we took a look at their post histories.

Turns out a lot of them are fucking disgusting.

This man said he was 56.

Here's a 35 year old man hitting on a 14 year old.

This perv is 40.

51

And for your consideration: a 45 year old man talking about "Hot tween pussy"

How fun!

##EDIT2: Thank you for gold! You're fabulous. <3 <3

##Edit3: The mods of r/Teenagers responded with a boiler plate "We can't police a million people" type of response which is fair enough.

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Inb4 c/drama has it's c/teenagers moment

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