40kLore

Hi, as title says. Seeing how the the gene seed are supposed to be tested regularly by the admech for mutation / chaos corruption, shouldn't it be super easy to run a quick analysis from a gene seed dna sample to and get a match that way ?

I get that 10000 years is a long time, but some dna material from the primarchs has to still be in there for the space marine making process to work right ? For the same reason the blood angels successor chapters still have the red thirst inherited from sanguinus.

Thanks!

I haven't read much lore surrounding the fall of the Eldar.

I'm interested in stories that fill in the in-between area of advanced immortal empire and what's basically a Slanneshi cult, similar to how the Horus Heresy books detail people falling to Chaos.

Having not read anything on it aside from the codexs and one rulebook section I can say that the fall just feels like a plot point without context, kind of like "suddenly everyone got bored and decided to become an insane hedonist cult".

Are any of the few books on the subject worth the read as far as filling in that part of the setting? I understand that Phoenix Rising has a prologue about it and there is a flashback sequence of sorts about it in Fulgrim, are those worth the read if I'm currently just trying to find books about the dead spaces in my understanding of the lore?

I haven't read much lore surrounding the fall of the Eldar.

I'm interested in stories that fill in the in-between area of advanced immortal empire and what's basically a Slanneshi cult, similar to how the Horus Heresy books detail people falling to Chaos.

Having not read anything on it aside from the codexs and one rulebook section I can say that the fall just feels like a plot point without context, kind of like "suddenly everyone got bored and decided to become an insane hedonist cult".

Are any of the few books on the subject worth the read as far as filling in that part of the setting? I understand that Phoenix Rising has a prologue about it and there is a flashback sequence of sorts about it in Fulgrim, are those worth the read if I'm currently just trying to find books about the dead spaces in my understanding of the lore?

As the title says, now that he's a daemon prince that keeps repawning, can't he just remove his butcher's nails since it's still causing him pain, even if it kills him from the operation, he'll respawn anyway.

Or if he doesn't want to risk doing it himself, can't it just be done techno-warp fuckery from the dark mechanicum?

Or with the help of Vashtor ( yes the great game I know, Korn probably won't allow Angon to be intebted to Vashtor in any way. But still it should doable technically, right?)

Thanks !

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/15/warhammer-preview-cower-before-the-apex-horrors-of-the-hive-mind/

Soft announced in the tie in fluff for the Crusades supplement, the Norn Emissary (and Norn Assimilator) have finally been revealed.

With the skies darkened, day and night had no meaning. The defenders fought on doggedly, yet their casualties mounted and the fortress they manned became ever more heavily damaged. All the while, the three Norn Emissaries stalked through the fighting with eerie alien grace, closing inexorably upon objectives only they knew. One of them struck on the eighth day of the siege, having compressed its mass into the seemingly impossible confines of a decommissioned turbolift shaft then crawled steadily upwards for untold hours. The towering monstrosity burst into the Erythrad Peak command sanctum, where it slaughtered hundreds of screaming strategos and command adepts and destroyed scoroes of irreplacable cogitator banks. The beast would have escaped to strike again elsewhere, had it not been for an unnamed Chapter serf who selflessy sealed the blood-drenched sanctum and trigged the plasmic denial charges, reducing the entire peak to a glassy crater.

The second Emissary - whose distinctive scars identified it to Imperial strategos as the infamous Fiend of Hag Rift - surged from a Trygon tunnel to attack the White Templars' gene-seed vault. It was supported by swarms of lesser warrior organisms and a pair of Neurotyrants. In response, marching from the Chapter's Vaults of Repose came almost a score of White Templars Dreadnoughts who held back the Tyranids in an increasingly desperate and one-sided struggle. Almost all of the ancient warriors were slain - a dreadful loss for the Chapter - but their sacrifices bought time for Colonel Uveda of the Ortegan Grenadiers to launch a massive counter attack and drive the Tyranids back. When the vengeful Chapter Master Stavro arrived at the head of a White Templars strike force, the Fiend of Hag Rift was badly wounded and its swarm devestated. Yet the malevolent monster escaped to fight another day.

For all the butchery and horror wrought by its fellows, it was the third of the Norn Emissaries that struck at the most crucial target. Scaling the snow-whipped peak of the tallest mountains in the Heights of Artorus, the creature lurked in wait amidst rock and ice for its prey to emege. Below lay the wide-open square of the Ascendorum, a great plaza wrought from a mountainous plateau, dotted with braziers, statuary, sheild generatorums and flak batteries. In better times, the White Templars had mustered on this open space to perform rituals and bestow honours beneath the starry vaults of Sanctum's skies. Now, Lord Solar Leontus was crossing the open plaza astride Konstantin with his entourage about him. The Norn Emissary knew its prey's psionic spoor. Its black eyes followed him. Its ropes of muscle and tendon tensed, and then it leapt out into thin air. The Norn Emissary dropped towards the plaza, sword-like talons extended, angling its huge mass to slam down directly atop Leontus. From below came screams as someone spotted the danger and many amongst Leontus' entourage raised weapons. The Lord himself looked up, registering his doom descending upon him too swiftly to be avoided.

Missiles streaked in and struck the Norn Emissary in the flank when it was scant feet above Leontus' head. The impacts blossomed into concussive fireballs. Their force hurled the huge Tyranid aside even as their shock waves unhorsed the Lord Solar and threw him and many of his companions flat upon the flagstones. The Norn Emissary bucked in the air, ichor gouting from its wounded flank, and turned its tumble into a cat-like landing with a grace nothing so huge should posses. It hissed as the gilded gunship that had fired upon it streaked overhead, then banked sharply with a flare of engines and came in for another pass. The craft's rear ramp whined open as it flew closer, and hulking warriors clad in ornate auramite armour dropped from it one after another to slam down in the plaza with enough force to crack stone. The gunship's weapons blazed again. This time the Emissary was ready. Leaping and swinging huge talons in a scything arc, it tore the cockpit from the gunship and sent it spiralling down the mountainside in flames.

The emissary wheeled and surged with serpentine speed towards Leontus, who was still staggering to his feet. Blood ran down his pale face from a bad scalp wound. Though he fumbled to draw his blade, the Norn Emissary's prey was in no condition to defend himself. The monster reared above him.

The newly arrived golden warriors moved with incredible speed and merciless focus. Those of the Lord Solar's retinue not swift enough to clear a path were smashed aside with bone-breaking force as Trajann Valrois and his Custodians raced to interpose themselves between Leontus and his would-be xenos assassin. The Norn Emissary was just paces from its victim when a hammering volley of bolt fire from the Custodian's guardians spears arrested its charge. The monster staggered then lunged with a shriek, snatching up the nearest Custodian and tearing one arm from his body before swinging him by the other and hurling him away.

Trajann Valoris stepped in and aimed a mighty stroke with the Watcher's Axe that shattered several of the Emissary's talons. The towering xeno-beast feinted back then sprang past Valoris and attempted to snatch up Leontus. The Lord Solar had, by now, recovered his wits, however, and hurled himself backward to escape the monster's grasp. Bodyguards and chanting priests pressed forward, raking the Norn Emissary with fire from lasguns, pistols, and a handful of plasma weapons. The monster swatted its attackers aside like insects and sent broken bodies tumbling across the plaza.

The next instant it reeled and screeched as several Custodians' blades hacked into its flesh. Eyes still fixed unerringly on the retreating Lord Solar, the Norn Emissary lashed about itself with blistering speed. A custodian was borne aloft and ripped bodily in two. Another was kicked so hard that his head cleared the plaza and vanished over the precipice before his blood-spurting body had even toppled. Yet another was stomped into the flagstones, even his toughened bone structure and auramite armour not enough to prevent his death. The golden wall between the Norn Emissary and its prey was thinning.

All the while Leontus defenders and the remaining Custodians were pouring fire into the colossal alien abomination. A scything blow of the Watcher's Axe slit the cable-like tendons of the beast's right ankle and set it limping. A plasma blast - either skullfully placed or incredibly lucky - melted the right side of the Emissary's face into a fused mass of cooked flesh. Bolt rounds fired by Custodians blasted chunks of chitin and showers of ichor from the creature's limbs and body.

Still the Norn Emissary fought on. Its whipping tail broke another Custodian's neck and sent his body cluttering away across the plaza. A final, desperate effort saw the beast hurl itself forward, jaws grasping to close upon Lord Solar Leontus like a trap slamming shut. Yet Valoris was there at the crucial moment, Watcher's Axe swinging in a meteoric arc to embed itself in the side of the Norn Emissary's skull and smash its head aside. The xenos monster crashed to the ground, crushing more than a score of Leontus' aides under its bulk, yet its last strike at the Lord Solar had been fended off by the Captain-General of the Emperor's own bodyguards. Valoris and his one surviving Custodian kept their weapons levelled at the monster as it twitched and heaved, but it did not try to rise again. Ichor flooded from its grievious wounds, steaming as it cooled and began to freeze upon the cracked flagstones of the plaza.

Lord Solar Leontus looked gravely around at the carnaged, then up at the stern-faced demigod who had interceded to save his life. Expression sombre, Leontus raised his hands and wordlessly offered the Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodes the sign of the Aquila. Valoris returned the gesture, and then calmly set about checking his wargear and reloading the Eagle's Scream. The life of the Lord Solar had been saved at terrible cost, and the defenders of Sanctum had received reinforcements, but there was still a world's worth of war to be waged.

Aeldari have daemon infested webway here and there, yet none of daemon poor out of those ways into reality, they even collapsed some if push become shove. Meanwhile, the one under Terra require Big E and Astronomican to keep it shut.

What's so different. To me, this felt like Big E tried to do plumbling himself and have to sit on the broken pipe to prevent it from flooding the house. Better call a real plumber like those Aeldari.

After almost a decade of the single largest shakeup in Warhammer 40,000 history being stuck in a limited release campaign book, the Fall of Cadia is finally getting a novelization. By Robert Rath, who also did The Infinite and The Divine, one of my personal favorite novels of the whole Black Library lineup.

Greetings everyone I would like to begin todays discussion on resource of sorts. That provides not only sourced information but also where to find this info. As I and everyone here are quite tired of having info sparsed to us, and not being given direct sourced documentation.

The first of this series, is on the First War of Armaggedon. While the information is very sparse. I believe it tells a very interesting narrative, and remains one of the more interesting 40k stories that power capped Angron in a more flavorful way and interesting way. As the current 40k writing has lended itself to be almost dragon ball z in terms of destruction.

I wanted to post this for first, as a source for people to use and a discussion about the wars of Armaggedon and specifically the First War. Instead of it being book quotes we have white dwarfs and websites to draw inspiration from. I hope people enjoy this and can discuss this war! I always felt the Wars of Armaggedon are Quintessential 40k and where 40k really rocks in telling really gripping narratives. I wish more wars were like those of Armageddon. As we've gotten very amazing stories from them including my next series, those of the Second War of Armageddon. The First War of Armageddon

The War-torn world of Armageddon has known the tread of invaders many times, most recently in the form of the Ork Warlord Ghazghkull Thraka's second invasion. However, Ghazghkull was not the first or even the greatest threat to Armageddon. Five hundred years before the ork warlord was even born, the taint of Chaos came to Armageddon. Trouble had been brewing for sometime, with riots and civil unrest spreading through the planet's main continental mass.

On Armageddon Secendus, the revolts were quickly suppressed, but those on Armageddon Prime proved to be more difficult to eradicate. Imperial Reinforcements could not easily reach Armageddon due to the presence of the Mid-Calvius CVII Warp storm. As the fighting continued, a vast space hulk appeared in orbit.

With the arrival of this space hulk, the rebels on armageddon were revealed as a cultists of the Ruinous Powers. To make matters worse, the great space hulk contained the Daemon Primarch Angron... (White Dwarf 203 Index Astartes : Terminators)

Now there are many versions of this story, but this the one from White Dwarf 303.The story of the First War of Armaggedon is one of the most ill-remembered stories in 40k, but one of the most documented. With the Imperial forces on Armageddon besieged by a massive chaos force.And strangely this is led by Daemon Primarch Angron,

It is unsure what fateful instances or treacherous motives trigger a full-scale attack by the vile forces of Chaos. One theory purported by some Imperial scholars is that, mercifully infrequently, the powers of Chaos set aside their rivalries and join together in a common cause, usually war with the followers of the Emperor of mankind - their most hated enemy. Such unholy amalgamations of hatred, greed, bloodlust and corruption are a melting pot of doom and as such these coalitions are uncaring as to where they vent their fury, leaving the location to the fickle currents of the Eye of Terror. The Chaos horde, which fell upon Armageddon with such ferocity, was such a case in point. A series of unnatural and unexplained events led to open, armed rebellion in a handful of hive cities, rebellions which were swiftly put down in the region of Armageddon Secundus, as the hives were geographically close. In the Armageddon Primus region however the hives were more widely spread thus hampering the loyalist forces attempts to restore imperial rule of law. Their attention consumed by the insurrection wracking their cities, the Imperial forces were caught completely by surprise when the Chaos ship, Devourer of Stars, appeared in the heart of the Armageddon sub-sector. Aboard the vast space craft a huge Chaos army led by Angron, Daemon Primarch of the World Eaters Space Marines who accompanied him on this monstrous vessel along with hordes of dark, twisted daemonic creatures which swept across the lands of Armageddon. The subtle, yet deadly tendrils of Chaos were quickly felt as the Imperial forces once again faced rebellion as fully half of their number defected to Chaos, the few remaining loyalist defenders being efficiently routed from Armageddon Prime. The all but defeated remnants of the Imperial defence forces fell back through the thick equatorial jungle, eventually joining forces with scattered pockets of survivors from Armageddon Secundus. This collection of troops regrouped and prepared to make a last stand along the banks of the rivers Styx and Chaeron. (First War of Armaggedon Website (https://web.archive.org/web/20031005004348/http://www.armageddon3.com:80/English/History/history_1st.html) )

Angron's forces were stalled by the Space Wolves and the Imperial forces, whom had deployed enmass to defend the World. And they grounded his forces to a halt. Yet Logan Grimnar knew that he was far outmatched, and sent word to Titan. The wolf ship arrived barely alive and was thundered and destroyed by the automated defenses of Titan. Tearing the vessel apart. Arrival on titan was not permited. Yet the lone wolf alive had a message about a daemon on Armaggedon.

To rally the Grey Knights was a pretty big task as it was made clear in Emperor's gift the chapter was spread out. While some might be unaware, but Titan is very rarely garrisoned enmass by the Grey Knights, the chapter itself is almost always spread across the galaxy, and there was no way that the entire chapter could gather. In a vision the Prognosticar of the grey knights (The Equalivent of a Farseer of the Greyknights), saw the vision of Angron, and confirmed the wolves warning. (Emperors Gift) Brother Captain Taremar Aurellian and the Grand Master of Titan (who is forbidden to leave it, as there must always be a Grand Master on titan) gathered One Hundred and Nine Grey Knights. Taremar Aurellian had become somewhat of a legend amongst the grey knights, he was given a prophecy one that would set him on a collision course with a dark son of the emperor. Taremar had originally been slated to join the Mortifactors, yet it was the Prognosticars of the Grey Knights seeing his potential and pureness arrived in a blaze of light then slaughtering the entire contingent of space marines to gather their prize, the younger Taremar. (White Dwarf 279 Codicium Imperialis - First War of Armaggedon )

Much of this is covered in the Grey Knights book : Emperor's Gift by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. This war in particular is interesting due to the fact that is was a tie in for the first Terminator Model Redux's in 2005, and for the Daemon Hunters Codex. The makeshift brotherhood gathered in full terminator armor and wargear. They as one teleported upon the ground of Armaggedon, a hundred knights versus the great Daemon Primarch Angron. Surrounding him was his bodyguard, Twelve Bloodthirsters.

The grey knights and daemons made battle, fighting as the grey knights were slaughtered and slaughtered in kind each of the blood thirsters. Yet it was a single grey knight, Hyperion whom charged the Daemon Primarch with his squad and broke the great blade. Buying enough time for the Brother Captain Taremar Aurellian, now incensed and given the powers of his brothers all the grey knights psychic power poured into him, becaming a beacon of light upon the battlefield.

Taremar banished Angron with his strike of his blade, banishing the Daemon Primarch back into the wrap. Yet Taremar died in the process. The war did not end here, yet it was that the grey knights part in it was, the chaos forces fell apart. And the wolves took advantage of the scene helping to secure the surviving greyknights to safety. Out of the one hundred and nine deployed, only thirteen Grey Knights survived the battle. Four Months later the war was over, the Grey Knights wounded yet their task complete. Yet... our story doesn't end here. The most interesting part about the first war, isn't the first war. But the After Effects. The Months of Shame. Which many often discuss far more than the actual war of Armaggedon as they kind of go hand in hand. The Months of Shame

Kysnaros, Inquisitor Lord of the Ordo Malleus ordered the deaths of every single mortal involved in the war of Armaggedon. The reason? For having seen the Daemon Primarch, Angron. Every single human, those who weren't important enough on the surface of Armageddon was to be sent to work camps and worked to death.

Logan upon hearing this decided to throw his fleet in the way of the inquisition forces so they couldn't fire at the imperial guard forces evacuating the planet. As the inquisition saw that armed military combatants could be corrupted by Chaos as was the sight of seeing a Daemon Primarch. The wolves smuggled people off the planets, putting their own battle barge in the way to prevent the inquisition from firing upon the escapees.... The Cold war between the two imperial forces had begun.

The Wolves smuggled entire sections of the population across entire planets, throwing them into trade lanes on random ships, and imperial veterans whom had survived were scattered across the entire galaxy Yet many worlds that the survivors went to the Inquisition destroyed, exterminating entire planets in their search for the armaggedonites, but it became impossible to track down. Dissension grew amongst the ranks of the Inquisition, Kysnaros was failing to contain the spread of the survivors. Some within it saw the tasks of tracking down all the survivors as an impossible task. And couldn't risk outright destroying more world.

The Imperial Inquisition turned their attention to the Space Wolves the main culprits of their woes, and knew they had a target to blame. The Wolves had learned of the destruction of many imperial worlds. Yet it was the wolves and their honorable ways had led to more deaths. No one was winning this. Yet the wolves were ready to meditate with the Inquisition, by invitation a of Grandmaster of the Grey Knights. They met with the inquisition forces. And then... The Inquisition fired upon the peaceful delegation of Wolves, destroying four of their ships and crippling the capital ship of the Wolves. The wolves teleported aboard the Inquisition ship and Logan screamed who gave the order, the Grandmaster not willing to sacrifice Kysnaros said he did. Logan took his head, and screamed out to the inquisitor. And began to teleport away, but the grey knights had purposefully let them teleport aboard and blocked the teleport with their psychic abilities.

The wolves angered fired their storm bolters at the gathered grey knights and jumped away as the Kysnaros had no idea how to respond without dying himself. Letting Logan Grimnar and his wolves go. And the wolves at that point were at full war with the Inquisition and Imperial forces.

The next few months.... Boiling out to heavy casualties between the Grey Knights and Space wolves, and even the inquisition forces taking the brunt of the damage. The Wolves barred their teeth and bit down. They attacked the inquisition while also suffering casualties themselves... The cold war had erupted into a full on war.

While interesting the war itself or 'months of shame' as the grey knights called it, were not entirely happy fighting a First Legion.

The Battle of Fenris

It all came to a final attack upon Fenris itself, the Inqusition had brought an entire Sector Fleet, the grey knights and the Red Hunters Space Marine chapter. Two members of the Inqusition, Hyperion a Grey Knight and a Fenrisian Inquisitor by the name of Jarlsdottyr were representatives. Inqusitior Kysnaros wanted to give the wolves an ultimatum: submit perform a penitent crusade or face their destruction. Yet curiously they found only a single Strike Cruiser above the Fang. The inqusitior assumed that the wolves had been bled dry. They arrived on the ground near the Fang, and were greeted by none other than Bjorn the Fellhanded, one of the most ancient dreadnoughts in the imperium. Which cause Jarlsdottyr to start praying, and even the grey knights pause. He made clear, "The Wolves would not surrender."

Pissing Kysnaros the hell off as he saw the entire space wolf fleet appear in orbit. To put it into prespective the Wolves have the largest fleet out of all the space marine chapters. They unlike others never broke down their fleet, they kept their good stuff. The inqusitior had angered the wolves greatly by entering fenris, and demanding their surrender, and the Inquisitor pissed off the entire Wolf Chapter by firing at fenris... The Wolves attacked slamming their ships into the Imperial Fleet, casualities on both sides mounting, until Kysnaro's main flagship's shields were torn down by the Wolves Fleet. Logan Grimnar as the shields were depleted teleported aboard the ship and went about systematically wiping out the Grey Knights, all those aboard the flagship until they entered the command bridge with Hyperion, the Inqusitior Lord Kysnaros, and Jarlsdottyr. The Wolves had penetrated the entire fleet just to kill Kysnaros and Logan Grimnar killed the Inquisitor.

Yet the battle had turned into a bloodbath for both sides. Then a teleporter erupted, in a glow a massive form appeared standing on the command bridge, it was Bjorn the Fellhanded. Pleading with the Great Wolf to cease his campaign, and that the vengeance had been exacted with the death of Kysnaros. The Great Wolf agreed and the inquisition led by the Grey Knight Hyperion who had become well known by the wolves as the Bladebreaker, and Jarlsdottyr led the negotation and the Wolves were allowed to live, and remember the war of armaggedon and namely... The Grey Knights. As a reminder to never stand up against the Inquisition. Hyperion for his deeds in the months of shame was banished to never enter Fenris's System ever again.

The inquisition fleet and the wolves departed without any further fighting. Yet Logan Grimnar would remember, he would remember the dishonor the inquisition had stooped too. The Grey Knights and the Segementum Solar's administratum saw the wolves as a menance. Yet it was hyperion, while he left the fenris system watched psychically as the great Bjorn was put back into stasis.

All sides had lost considerably forces, the wolves had lost entire relics, ships dating back to the times of the Great Crusade, and many Astartes. It was both chapters that had suffered the most, the Grey Knights most considerably had lost two entire brotherhoods, from both the first war of armaggedon and the months of shame. Leading to the grey knights being considerably under strength. Hyperion now the last of the prognosticators. Notes to everyone Yet all in this, I respect the space wolves, they both right and wrong. They should've know better yet, it was the inquisition that pulled the trigger. The needless destruction of many imperial worlds, the attack on fenris, is laid at the feet of more than just the Inquisitor Lord. Logan Grimnar and by extension the entire inqusition's after attacks on both the wolves and the imperium is incredibly sloppy.

They could've contained this! Yet, they didn't and it caused more woe and rampant destruction. Entire shrine worlds, hiveworlds devastated by the imperiums own guns. This book Emperor's Gift remains one of my favorite stories in 40k, a tragic yet heroic tale, and one of the more interesting battles of the Imperium where neither side really 'won'.

In my eyes, after the dreadful way the Space Wolves were shown to be, as these horrific butchers in the horus heresy. The wolves were in a strange way redeemed by the Months of Shame, in the preheresy the wolves would never risk their lives for innocent people, or those they fought besides. The Wolves in 40k had become an honorable type. As this was on the sharp heels of Burning of Propsero and a Thousand Sons, this made me like the Wolves and respect the Grey Knights.

I highly recommend reading Emperors Gift. And this will mark the first venture I make into documenting the entirety of the Wars of Armaggedon as I came into contact with an entire wide collection of my Uncle's White Dwarves, I found I have the Eye of Terror Campaign booklets, the Entire Third war of Armaggedon campaign White Dwarf, and almost all of the Index Astartes for the First Founding Legions and many other chapters.

I hope you enjoyed the read, and would love to hear some corrections on my side, along with any interesting tidbits you took away about the war.

Sources : Emperors Gift by Aaron DB White Dwarf 275 White Dwarf 203 The Armaggedon Website : https://web.archive.org/web/20031005004348/http://www.armageddon3.com:80/English/History/history_1st.html

So you want to get into the lore community huh? A new player, maybe your an old veteran who has taken the plunge into 10th Edition!

To be fair I was interested in always writing an FAQ, and I took an idea from one of our discord members and decided to expand it a bit more. As I also felt similarly that having a central FAQ of where to get information would be helpful to new, old, or returning 40k Lore Keepers.

#So how do I get into 40k's lore?#

1. Warhammer Community News Page - Your major one stop place for free news and lore drops. A major event happening in 40k? It will be on the community site. Then will often showcase what books are coming out tied to that event. GW is very good at tying new events with Black Library Books.

2. This World, we will often be posting excerpts or summaries or discussions. Or the old Subreddit of 40klore. The Discord will also have some discussions on topics but not summaries.

3. Random Forums such as Dakka Dakka, Bolter and Chainsword. Or wikis, Lexicanum is a far more reliable source and your first stop for just a general introduction and a great place to find direct sources to read. Find an event that interest you? Look up that book and try to get at it at a local library!

• And its where most people get their information. Lexicanum is always stringent about where lore comes from and has to be directly paraphrased. Lexicanum is a wikipedia after all its not the sole place to get your lore! Its a tip toe into the lore depths of 40k.

4. Youtubers: Luetin09 (General 40k), 40k Theories, Oculus Imperia, Arbitor Ian (Summaries of Events), Wolf Lord Rho, Fluffenhammer, Snipe and Wib (General 40k and Hobby), and 2+ Tough (Age of Sigmar more than 40k).

• If you want a layman's terms and introduction but not a very in-depth 40k lore look at : Adeptus Podcastus is a pretty good place to get it, but they often get lore wrong more than they get right. But if you want to get introduced to a topic the Podcast is the easiest to learn a small part about it. Avoid book reviews, read them yourself.

5. Books / PDFs you can find these books on kindle for relatively cheap or at Local Libraries or Bargain Bins. 40k Books are inexplicably expensive on Amazon for physical copies, its advisable to avoid it. There are some recommendation lists for 40k books. Typically people recommend the Eisenhorn, Ciaphas Cain, or Tanith First and Only as your introduction to 40k.

• If you don't gel with either of these three I'd highly recommend one of my favorites The Infinite and the Divine a Necron book. Essentially a buddy cop story about space robots who hate each other. Some other books are also pretty good for lore per a faction its often denoted by Space Marine Battles or the book cover. But its advisable to avoid codexes if you don't want to get into the hobby and spend on codexes which are usually 50+ $ USD. Black Library books can be picked up basically anywhere. Or on digital or on a bundle as PDFs.

6. Other Users! Many of us are more than willing to discuss 40k, and love it. Often times we want to ensure that we are discussing it in a way that people can easily find sources on it. Not everyone has a library of old white dwarfs or the Black books of forgeworld to rely on but there are some of us that do and are more than willing to quote paragraphs to help with searches or just a general understanding of events.

7. Warhammer Codexes and Rulebooks are usually the last place I would go directly unless you want to spend 50-60 USD per book. Unforunately to people who read just the lore its advisable to just avoid or ask someone who does. Thankfully White Dwarf's (GW's offical magazine) is often full of lore excerpts but its better to first check with people if they do.

8. Discussion threads, got a question just leave one about a particular place and lore tidbit you want to learn about. Like what happened in the Badab War? How were the cursed foundings made? What is the Eldar Paths? Or How advanced are the Tau as a species? Or How do the Chaos Space Marines not have land speeder?

9. Author Blogs. Yes the authors of warhammer 40k often have quite a bit of knowledge on the subject of it and often answer questions about the universe. But they too rely on Lexicanum or their own interest in 40k.

10. This video by Arbitor Ian is a pretty good catch up for 40k 10th Edition. https://youtu.be/CTzzPbUcCa0

I'm posting this in refuge as RIF has the plug pulled. We worked hard to grow a community in /r/40klore and while most of the team doesn't want to take on a second side project in moderating a replacement website I wanted to reserve this spot for future growth if anyone else has an interest in growing the community here.

Now we all have to completely relearn how to use the internet and it's going to be a very rough transition, hopefully this takes off and people can enjoy giant angry tank soldiers punching screaming mushroom in the face with chainsaw swords.

Thank you, anyone that stops by.

I'm posting this in refuge as RIF has the plug pulled. We worked hard to grow a community in /r/40klore and while most of the team doesn't want to take on a second side project in moderating a replacement website I wanted to reserve this spot for future growth if anyone else has an interest in growing the community here.

Now we all have to completely relearn how to use the internet and it's going to be a very rough transition, hopefully this takes off and people can enjoy giant angry tank soldiers punching screaming mushroom in the face with chainsaw swords.

Thank you, anyone that stops by.