Cutting off the supply of a critical technology is a double-edged sword. Short-term sure you starve them of that technology. But now you're encouraging them, with great urgency, to develop that technology stack domestically. Which they may not have done if it was readily, and cheaply available for import.
this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2024
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It's a great thing from a technological perspective. Having more than one development group will drive innovation.
Engagement is almost always a better strategy. But once an unhinged dictator wannabe and his Chinese counterpart start down the road to isolationism, it’s hard to find an off-ramp.
That's great! I'll believe it when I see it.
ikr? these news come out every month.
I hope they did and start driving down costs but if it isn't mass produced and easily accessible, the news means fuck all for everyone but the CCP.
Didn't China just recently lie about their ability to do this? I suspect they aren't as close as they claim
Source?
CCP lies about everything constantly, runs all businesses, and controls the media. This is extremely well documented.
I don't have it handy but there were posts on one of the tech Lemmy communities about it. IIRC, they claimed to have sourced their own 5nm but a teardown revealed Taiwanese chips.
I have never seen any source saying China claimed they have produced their own 5nm chip. They just release the laptop and international media claimed the chip was homemade until found otherwise.
Just like the current 7nm chip in some huawei phones and tablet. It was just launched quietly and international media went and advertised it for them.
If you read the current article carefully you will notice it's arstechnica and the parent article from the financial times making the claim of China having the 5nm chip not "China" itself.
It's actually two people that are "familiar with the move" and whose names aren't printed. I'm not super convinced by that tbh.
Secondly, if this company was actually close to this technology, why would they not be talking about it? This would be a huge boon for Chinese tech, and that's not the type of thing that normally comes from two randos to an international organization and is usually like a press release or something.
Couldn't stop thinking about what you said about Huawei's 7nm chips so I decided to investigate and would you look at that it only took me 10 seconds to find out you're wrong: https://consumer.huawei.com/en/press/news/2018/huawei-launches-kirin-980-the-first-commercial-7nm-soc/
Literally in the title of the URL it says 2018. That is the old TSMC 7nm not the 7nm SMIC from 2023...
US trying to cut China off from modern chips turned into a massive self own.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
China’s national chip champions expect to make next-generation smartphone processors as early as this year, despite US efforts to restrict their development of advanced technologies.
The country’s biggest chipmaker, SMIC, has put together new semiconductor production lines in Shanghai, according to two people familiar with the move, to mass-produce the chips designed by technology giant Huawei.
That plan supports Beijing’s goals of chip self-sufficiency, with President Joe Biden’s administration tightening export restrictions for advanced chipmaking equipment in October, citing national security concerns.
The phone helped it to increase shipments in China by nearly 50 percent in the fourth quarter, according to Canalys research, as it proved a big hit with consumers.
If production is judged successful enough for smartphones, Huawei’s most powerful artificial intelligence processor, the Ascend 920, will also be produced at 5 nm by SMIC, the two people said, narrowing the gap between China’s alternative AI chips and Nvidia’s highly sought-after graphics processing units.
“SMIC is facing a more significant roadblock for production expansion after the US and its alliance tightened export restrictions on advanced chipmaking gear,” said one person close to the company.
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