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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

i hope it stays that way. i'm sick of these ceos and their garbage :/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In the Fediverse there are no Zuckerbergs, Musks, Dorseys, Huffmans etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There is ALWAYS the possibility to enshittify anything. Meta is trying to infiltrate Mastodon already.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My only concern is extremists making use of it to organize, spread misinformation, coordinate attacks, etc. and there's zero oversight. That's a serious concern that needs addressing, but I have no idea how.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ban those communities from your instance. There's not going to ever be any way to prevent them starting their own, all you can do is defederate. There doesn't need to be any more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, if it's real bad shit like violence, that's where FBI comes in, right?

Not sure if the ACLU would be able to do anything about hate speech.

But bad actors would have to run a shell game of go between instances to recruit. And they've been doing that shit for decades anyways. Hell, it's the same thing as under 18 punk shows back in the day when nazis hung in the parking lot trying to give booze/drugs to kids.

Like, imagine if someone said we can't have phones because assholes can also buy a phone...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t think it’s necessary “CEO proof” but it is definitely a bit better positioned to avoid the pitfalls that Twitter and Reddit have experienced. Hence the reason I am here. But there’s nothing stopping a for-profit corporation from buying out the owner of a large instance (or multiple large instances). I think the best way to try and prevent that is for people to join hyper-local, hyper-specific instances that can all connect with one another. I assume that would be the benefit of Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can see a good example of this in the gaming sphere as both Path of Exile and Warframe have entire instances for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thankfully options like this are becoming available because it's really annoying to need to continually "digitally migrate" away as these corporate controlled websites become enshittified.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I agree that the more accurate term is "board-proof" but I still think "CEO-proof" conveys the idea better to someone who is unaware of the way social media corpos work. The image of the shady CEO with his pinstripe suite and greased hair, lighting his big cigar with a wad of dollar bills is so strong in the cultural conciousness, that even my inlaws would switch to a federated plattform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

CEO-proof sounds pretty, though there already exists the (perhaps broader) term “decentralised”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Something can be decentralized and non-CEO-proof at the same time. Cryptocurrency and related technologies are decentralized, but the wealth and power imbalance between the "peasants" and the rich-get-richer "nobles (derogatory)" is massive (see: 3AC, Celsius, Terra/Luna, etc).

Compare that to the fediverse - if an instance gets spezzed up by some CEO-minded knobhead with bigger ideas than brains, that instance can be defederated. It would still be a great loss of content, but it is decentralized in such a way that one person can't take down the entire ecosystem.

P.s. "spez" is now a verb, it means "to have a passable product/service completely fucked up and its users turned against you because you wanted more money".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like spez being a verb.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There will never be a time when you need adds to pay for a server even if you had a server with 50 million people the cost to run that server might be like 100k if just 1 million people pay 1 dollar you already have 1 million dollars a month you only need adds when your a company that needs to grow every quarter

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