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[–] [email protected] 137 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Congress has wanted nothing to do with conflicts in an official capacity for the last 50-60 years. They want sound bytes in unofficial interviews for grandstanding and to be able to blame everyone else.

This is actually a result of those decades of congress, regardless of party in control, abdicating their constitutional duty. For a recent example, check out post 9/11 and congress.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (14 children)

This. A thousand times this.

Both Obama and Biden have been more than willing to sign a repeal or massive overhaul of the AUMF, but both chambers of Congress and members of both parties therein are cowards who would rather cheer or criticize in front of a camera and microphone than perform their Constitutional duties of checking the power of the Commander in Chief.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Remember the Republican reaction when Obama did the same thing in Libya?

Reeeeeee! 72 hours to get our approval or we'll impeach you! Reeeeeee! Not authorized! Not funded!

Then when our embassy there... in Benghazi... was attacked... it was years of "Reeeee! Why didn't you DO something??!?!?!"

[–] glockenspiel 71 points 10 months ago (2 children)

After they stripped embassy security funding for it, naturally.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Is Ben Gazi the talented buttery male I hear so much about?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (64 children)

Another terrorist group fucks around and finds out.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

War is not something to glorify. It's unfortunate that the situation with Israel/Palestine, Saudis/Iran, and Houthis/US escalated to this point.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

The last war declared by Congress was ~~Korea in the early 1950s~~ in WW2. Dark Brandon doesn't have time for this foolishness. Yemen was warned again and again. They've now entered the find out stage.

edit: brain worms

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The last war by US Congress was declared in June 1942, against Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania. US Congress has not made a formal declaration of war since then.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

Right but they pass laws granting authorization of military use of force, AUMF. That's the Congressional authority to declare war under the War Powers Clause of the Constitution.

If you read the annotations to that clause you will see that the framers intent, traditional interpretation, and certainly modern interpretation are in agreement that the Constitution does not foreclose executive initiated use of force in what would be considered self defense, and that would certainly include the measured and limited destruction of an enemy's ability to carry out further attacks on US interests, and would certainly cover such defensive measures when done in agreement and in concert with a broad coalition of allies.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Some progressives need to put down the flowers and smoke some bad guys now and then. Conservatives need to cram their sabers up their own asses and die.

I'll take soft progressives over the other any day of the week, but demanding Congressional approval is fucking absurd right now. It'll take 8 months and be filled with unrelated laws, financial packages for Ohio and Texas, and pro-oil deregulation.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus fucking Christ, Congress is peak dysfunction.

[–] MagicShel 16 points 10 months ago

Republicans: "Hold my MAGA hat!"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (25 children)

They might have a stronger case if they haven't proven to be a 'do nothing' Congress. They can't even put together a budget.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

No one is saying let the planet go to hell

Yes, yes they are. Maybe not you, but there are billionaires saying exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So are they going to repeal the War Powers Act? Are we going back to needing a Declaration of War to deal with every pissant pirate?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Asking Congress is a surefire way to get nothing done.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Isn't fighting piracy like legal for everyone? Like a private citizen or any country's military could go out there and hunt pirates. I remember that from when the somali pirates got yeeted.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Oh yeah the infighting is getting bad. Get ready for an absolute terrible election season for the Democrats.

I'm seeing "leftists" using the same vocabulary as Q-anon style crazy morons. The vitriol is being spat like no matter what their isn't a right answer and it's not made better by the fact that we as a country are still basically pushing for all the worse aspects of ourselves because it's what feels normal.

People are all gonna join in to help burn it down and think they will be the kings of the ashes but largest organized group is gonna be the real victor and it's for sure as hell not the self hating left.

Maybe I will be wrong and the vote against method will work again but if it does we need to make some hard turns to get things actually getting better and get some companionship happening or it will just be a bloodbath between factions that wanted their scoop of the ashes.

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