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Hi and hope all are well today. First, thanks in advance for any / all responses. Second, apologies if this isn’t the best place to ask this question.

I’m curious if anyone, has moved completely from using an AppleTV to something else. Current use case for the ATV is a few streaming apps (Crunchyroll / HiDive, Tubi, etc.) and Apple Arcade (a few casual games).

If you did completely switch, what did you decide on using? Did you go back to buying movies / using a DVD/Blu-Ray player, setup a mini PC and stream from websites / rip music and movies, use a gaming console instead, etc.?

Exploring options and entertaining thoughts for right now. Again, thanks and have a good day / evening.

Edit - 2024/01/01 - Just wanted to thank everyone for the lively discussion and resources (links, recommendations, etc.) related to my question.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (35 children)

ATV is the only box I recommend. I'm anti-Google, don't trust Amazon (and now their service is going to do ads on a paid Prime membership), and Roku has major privacy issues at least in the past. Curious why you're seeking an alternative to Apple.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm curious why you would trust Apple and not the others you have listed. All of them will do literally anything to just earn more money and exploit you as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (39 children)

Apple is the least terrible of my list.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apple is a hardware company first, not an advertising and services company like Google and Roku, and not a literal massive online retailer like Amazon.

Apple TV is the only one that doesn’t have ads on its home screen. I use an Apple TV to play all my physical media that has been ripped to mov and re-encoded with handbrake

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the comment. I should've provided more context in the original post. Without getting too deep, I'm starting to reconsider my personal views on privacy, content ownership (vs. streaming), where / how I spend my money, etc.

I'm in the Apple ecosystem but wondering if going back to open source, purchased media (music, movies, etc.), donating to projects, etc. is "better". Which is highly subjective and personal, of course.

The reason for the question was to see what other folks may be doing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If privacy is the concern, you should really read the breakdown from Mozilla someone shared. Can’t miss it, large wall of text in this thread. Apple ecosystem is much better than others in the privacy department. The other players are much worse when it comes to personal data collection and selling.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I have tried Roku, Fire TV, Chromecast (not the new models with an interface), and AppleTV. So far Apple TV is the cleanest without ads or sponsored content on the home screen.

If you find something better please let me know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like my Roku, but it would be much more annoying without a pihole to block the ads.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

And telemetry.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

Keep your Apple TV and use it as a streaming client for whatever you stand up on the backend. Personally I have a Synology NAS that I love and I use the net to get all my content. Use the net. 😉

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you have Apple users at home, the integrated experience and the video quality is going to be very hard to match from other platforms. My parents use Chromecast and it takes so many more steps to send content on to their media system. The video quality when casting also suffers a little, though that may be because they’re using cheap ISP router AP combo box, and I’m using Ubiquiti APs instead. Having said that, I do think the A15 processor in the most recent model is an overkill in the graphics performance department, so I wouldn’t completely rule out device capability compared as the cause of video quality difference.

Based on my readings, I think most recent high end nVIDIA Shield Tv Pro is the only closest in terms of raw performance and even then it may be a bit behind. Tegra X1+ found in the Shield Pro is on Maxwell architecture, which is older than GeForce 1080 series’ Pascal architecture, if I’m not mistaken. This would date it to around 2015-ish; whereas the previously mentioned A15 processor in most recent version of AppleTV 4K was introduced in 2021 with iPhone 13 series.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have had various sticks and Roku highest end models and then got the latest ATV with hard wire port that adds Dolby vision and high frame rate HDR. I have a 2022 high-end TV.

The video quality is noticeably better. Not sure of older ATV, but this is clearly better than the top end Roku. Also, I'm not sure if it is the same on older tvs

The other thing is that you want to hard wire if at all possible. Even the best wifi can't touch the reliability of a wire

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Not sure if it's a factor for you but roku tries to phone home a lot more than anything else on my network (or perhaps my firewall just catches it more than other devices and apps). Otherwise roku is pretty good.

Nvidia shield tv is better though. It's the best set top box. Made even better by replacing the default launcher/ home screen (android TV default launcher now has 2/3 or more of the screen taken up by ads or "recommended content" which is just ads).

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Nvidia Shield Pro with the default launcher disabled & replaced, Plex server. I'm pulling the unused apple TV out of the media setup this week.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I host a Plex server for streaming and my apple TV 4k 2021 would refuse to play high bit rate media. Kept displaying an error message telling me I've exceeded the limit. Started searching online and everyone consistently called Nvidia shield pro the best one can buy. Bought it, love it, now have 3. But all I use it Plex. I've made my server basically all streaming services combined to one.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I ran an Apple TV in the living room for a long time to access my Plex server and whatever subscription my wife has this month. As time went on it got more and more glitchy until it came to the point where I had to power cycle the thing every few days. Replaced it with a cheap fire stick, annoyed the crap out of me. Replaced that with a cheap Roku, it was only slightly better than the shitty firestick.

My wife got me the NVIDIA shield pro for Christmas this year, and I picked up the p2920 controller for it. My god this thing is awesome - not only is it the best tv box I’ve ever used, I can use moonlight to play games on my rig or GeForce now to stream games. I highly recommend this thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Roku really should not sell most of their cheapest options, they’re very bad, while the top of the line Rokus are very solid.

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