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I keep thinking this would have been a much better sell to devs and to users. I have always used Sync, and Boost. I tried the official app a few times, but really only used it for the chat feature. I didn't want to pay for it, but (I am embarrassed to admit it) I would pay premium to keep my app. I think this would have worked out better for Reddit than the garbage they are pulling right now.

Would that have been a more reasonable solution in your opinion as well?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't have paid for, but i would have accepted much better. "API usage is ad free hence only premium users can access it" is much better than "API users are freeloaders that take more than they are giving, fuck them!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe if the fediverse didn’t exist.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Two weeks ago I would've honestly paid $5 per month to get full and unlimited access to third party apps. Sync was my most used app. After the shit they pulled, no fucking way. Reddit lost all their credibility the way they treated the third party app developers and the moderators

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not at this point. I don't want to give bad faith actors my business, and Mr. Huffman has shown himself to be a big ol' penis. At the beginning? With unadulterated access (i.e. NSFW content) and gentler rules for 3rd party apps? Sure, I would have been ok with that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's amazing how every time I think Huffman has destroyed every shred of credibility and goodwill he goes and digs the hole even deeper.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny, because that was the obvious solution from the start.

"Third-party apps don't sell our Awards or include any of the NFT/Vault stuff^1^, and we're not making money. So from June 30th we'll only be allowing Reddit Premium subscribers to use third-party apps. The official Reddit app will continue to be free for everyone."

I honestly think people would've understood.

But if they announced it now, it'd just make people even angrier. 🙃

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^1^ As far as I know

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You're right, it would be too late...

But it would have allowed users access to awards and coins and chat features without stepping on the toes of Reddit. It's crazy that they didn't come up with that rather than this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No, once they showed what they're up to, this could happen again in some new kind of paywall. Really hope Lemmy continue it's ascension

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Back at the beginning of all this I would have been willing to spend $1-2 a month or so. But at this point it's become clear that Reddit is completely untrustworthy, I wouldn't give them a dime.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would depend on the price, and also we would need to live in a hypothetical world where Reddit hasn't done any of the stupid shit they've done in the past month. As of right now, I can't imagine giving Reddit my money knowing what a PoS spez is

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is the thing. I would have happily paid it before spez revealed himself to be an irredeemable piece of shit. Now, I've no interest in filling his coffers. Policy needs to change and he needs to go, no negotiation, I don't trust him and I don't think he's a good steward for the site.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

At this point, no. I took June as a Lemmy test drive, and turns out I like it better. The API change doesn't affect me too much, as I primarily interacted with Reddit through a web browser, but generally things have been going downhill for Reddit. I found a viable alternative, I'm sticking with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit exists to make its investors money, that's it's only goal now. The userbase are a complication to deal with in order to appease the advertisers. It's not the platform for users any more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I personally don't think the API pricing was ever meant to be reasonable or cover their true costs. Between the absurd pricing, the short timing, their test that blocked mobile web browsers, and refusal to even negotiate, it's clear to me that they just want to kill 3rd party apps and force everyone on mobile into the official mobile app where they can enforce their monetization schemes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No, because the sudden API lockout of third party apps with yearly subscriptions shows they do not care about contractual obligations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If it was a few weeks ago, I would be happy to pay 1$/month for RiF. Now I just don't care anymore

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I absolutely would have if things were handled differently, but at this point my only goal is to see spez get his ass fired.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I told the Infinity dev that I would pay for access. But I somehow expected a reasonable price. And after the shitshow of the last days I am not interested in Reddit anymore. I think I will pay for a few months because I said so and that it is then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No, I'm done. My accounts are gone. Not interested in starting over

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol no, fuck Reddit. Enough is enough. There's no salvaging that.

I mean, it's not a theoretical scenario, Infinity is going the paid route so you can do just that if you want. Except of all nsfw, which is exactly what I was using Infinity for. Anyway poor Infinity dev, putting their head into the lion's mouth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Initially I would have for like 5€/month I guess. But now, I'll just directly use the browser with ublock when I need something. For scrolling I'll stay here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure I would accept Reddit paying me to go back, let alone me paying to use Reddit. The API debacle has laid bare the problem with centralised, proprietary social media - the users who create the value of the platform ultimately have no control over the platform. If it wasn't APIs and third party apps it could by anything else.

Why invest time (and money) contributing to something that could be pulled out from our feet at any point, with no recourse?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I created an account just to emphatically say NO.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Some time ago most likely yes. As for now I would never go back to reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’d be willing to pay for Apollo premium(I should have a while ago) to pay for API costs, but fuck Reddit! Seriously if Apollo/RIF came forward and said “Reddit is going to charge us for API, the price is high but reasonable” I’d have bought Apollo premium to help out, but 20mil? Nah, that’s Reddit crushing competition and fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't go back if it stayed the same for free lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not with how the site’s being run now, no

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Probably, yeah. Now I'm less enthusiastic since I don't trust Reddit at all and I'd be only willing to pay as a way to support them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sigh, I’ll get hanged for this, but probably. I really enjoyed Reddit, and the wide variety of content/information I could easily access. When I had my son, Reddit was invaluable, and frankly still is in regards to parenting advice. I’m excited to check out the Fediverse and is happily contribute to it growing into a large community and resource. But the gap is felt in the meantime.

Still, I hope Huffman is given his due for his obnoxious bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In all honesty, maybe I would go back if I could pay a few bucks a month to use my own client that didn't show ads.

But that's because there are a few niche communities on Reddit that don't seem to want to migrate anywhere else.

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