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Hello everyone, I’ll try to keep this short as I know there’s been a lot going on over the last few days. When we made our announcement last week, we intended to get Reddit's attention on a subject that our team found extremely concerning. /r/Videos is joining a larger coordinated protest and signing an open letter to the admins found here.

The announcement was of exceedingly high API prices which we all know was to intentionally kill 3rd party applications on reddit (Apollo, Reddit is Fun, Boost, Relay, etc.) Since that post several things have become clear; Reddit is not willing to listen to its users or the mod teams from many of its largest communities on this matter. Yesterday all major third-party Reddit apps announced that they would be shutting down on the 30th of June due to these changes. There were no negotiations and Reddit refused to extend the deadlines. The rug was pulled out from under them and by extension all of the users who rely on those tools to use reddit.

In addition to this, the AMA hosted by Steve Huffman, CEO of Reddit, which was intended to alleviate concerns held by many users about these issues, was nothing short of a collage of inappropriate responses. There are many things to take away from this AMA but here are the key points. Most disappointingly it appears that Reddit outright misconstrued the actions of Apollo's creator /u/iamthatis by saying that he threatened Reddit and leaked private phone calls, something done only to clear his name of another accusation.

So what’s happening? The TL;DR? Effective tomorrow (6/11/2023), /r/Videos will be restricting posting capabilities. Anything posted before the cut off date will likely be the final front page of our community before we go private indefinitely. In the unlikely scenario that Reddit ownership has a sudden change of heart and capitulates on their decisions we will reopen, but until that happens /r/Videos will stay closed. Many other communities have come to similar decisions and we support those who have decided to take a stand.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy is gonna be rough for a few days at least but after the growing pains we’re going to have an even greater community

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I took r/edc restricted yesterday, though we are/were tiny. While I still plan to find replacement mods from within the community after reddit goes full dipshit, I'm done ring their work for free, with shit tools, next to zero support, and (worse, imo) taking a lot of flak from admins because of bullshit unrelated to moderation.

I dunno if lemmy is going to become the reddit replacement or not, but I'm done with giving reddit anything at all. Overwrote and deleted everything from my author account that had some decent amount of fiction, and my personal account that had a lot of real stories from my life. That ain't much, but since I've seen my stuff being read on YouTube, and reposted by the copy/paste bots, it's something I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think any and all subreddits should go this way.

Reddit is only popular because of the users. We create the content. Yes, a lot of posts on the website are external links but all discussions are generated and concluded by us, the users.

Shutting subs down for 1-2 days and going back to normal is not going to have much of an impact. It's akin to a server blip. If subs shut down indefinitely then reddit has a real problem. 'Normal' users will start to take notice, whereas they currently might not be paying much attention. These subs should go the other route. Shut down and promote alternatives (such as lemmy!) to divert traffic away from reddit.

Pigboy Spez talked about not being profitable. No shit, you dick. This is how you become even less profitable, by pissing off the entire user base.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's also the mods, working for free while other platforms spend millions on moderation.

I remember several years ago there was another exodus towards Voat, it didn't last long because that place was an unmoderated mess, 99% was spam, unbearable, people got back to reddit really quick and Voat shutdown a few years later.

I really don't understand how spez cannot realize this, piss off all the mods (on top of users) and you're doomed because you have nothing to moderate the platform anymore, see how your investors can be happy about that.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Wow even if admins take over that subreddit, such a big subreddit will surely create a snowball of many more subreddits doing it.

I don't see reddit ever recovering from this (They'll not die, but things won't be the same)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

@Clbull A highly-upvoted comment suggests moving to Tilde. Is Tilde federated? I can't find anything that indicates it might be.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Excellent! They're probably the biggest one so far, I imagine. The idea of this catching on has got to have the reddit admins sweating....

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There are 5 subs joining that are bigger than r/videos, tho they're not dark yet: https://reddark.untone.uk/

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is such a big win! I really hope that capacity increases on kbin. Perhaps the mods/admins can organise a donation link? I'm sure there are many of us that would be happy to donate to improve server capacity. (Provided it was secure etc etc)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Usually refuges are the ones asking for help. I love that in Rexxit, the refuges are the ones seeking to give help.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This was basically force the admins of reddit to remove them as mods... going to annoy a lot of people but its not going to magically cease reddits operations.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem with removing mods is that they need to find a replacement for all that free labour.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This probably the best way, it will show how impactful mods are and what happens when they leave. It's a shame reddit admins will take over the sub to force it back open.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm impressed and pleased with the mods' willingness to strike like this. Hope it may lead to change.

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