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I just started getting into self hosting using docker compose and I wonder about possible backup solutions. I only have to safe my docker config so far, but I want host files as well. What software and hardware are you using for backup?

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[–] YonatanAvhar 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At the moment I'm doing primarily hopes and prayers

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I had to upgrade to Hopes&Prayers+ after I ran out of hope and my prayers kept getting return to sender.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was in the same boat, until my prayers weren't listened and my hopes are now dead.

I lost some important data from my phone a few days ago. My plan was to backup at night but chaos was that same day in the morning.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been using Borg to back my stuff up. It gets backed up to rsync.net, which has good support for Borg:

https://www.rsync.net/products/borg.html

If you're good enough at computers, you can even set up a special borg account with them that's cheaper and has no tech support.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was a rsync.net user for many years and recently switched to borgbase, because of how easy it is to manage multiple backup targets.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm on the same boat right now, borg and borgbase.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That looks cool, and they've got some other nifty looking things like https://www.pikapods.com/. Any idea how stable the company is? I partially like rsync.net because it's pretty unlikely to just disappear someday.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Seconding this. On my unRAID host, I run a docker container called “Vorta” that uses Borg as its backend mechanism to backup to my SynologyNAS over NFS. Then on my Syno, run two backup jobs using HyperBackup, one goes to my cousin’s NAS connected via a Site-to-Site OpenVPN connection on our edge devices (Ubiquity Unifi Security Gateway Pro <-> UDM Pro), the other goes to Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage.

OP, let me know if you need any assistance setting something like this up. Gotta share the knowledge over here on Lemmy that we’re still used to searching evil Reddit for.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Love Borg and the associated docker containers and the like. Really is set and forget!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Local backup to my Synology NAS every night which is then replicated to another NAS at my folks house through a secure VPN tunnel. Pretty simple and easy to deploy.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've had excellent luck with Kopia, backing up to Backblaze B2.

At work, I do the same to a local directory in my company provided OneDrive account to keep company data on company resources.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For app data, Borg as backup/restore software. Backup data is then stored on Hetzner as an offsite backup - super easy and cheap to setup. Also add healthchecks.io to get notified if a backup failed.

Edit: Backup docker compose files and other scripts (without API keys!!!) with git to GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

my 20 TB storage is currently hosted by Hetzner on a SMB Share with a acompanying server The storage is accessable via NFS/SMB i have a Windows 10 VPS running Backblaze Personal Backup for 7$/Month with unlimited storage while mounting the SMB share as a "Physical Drive" using Dokan because Backblaze B1 doesn't allow backing up Network shares If your Storage is local you can use the win Backup Agent in a Docker container

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Restic for backup - can send backups to S3 and SFTP amongst other target options.

There are S3 (block storage) compatible services, such as Backblaze's B2, which are very affordable for backups.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use restic (and dejadup just to be safe) backing up to multiple cloud storage points. Among these cloud storage points are borgbase.com, backblaze b2 and Microsoft cloud.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt your using NixOS so this config might seem useless but at its core it is a simple systemd timer service and bash scripting.

To convert this to another OS you will use cron to call the script at the time you want. Copy the part between script="" and then change out variables like the location of where docker-compose is stored since its different on NixOS.

Let me explain the script. We start out by defining the backupDate variable, this will be the name of the zip file. As of now that variable would be 2023-07-12. We then go to each folder with a docker-compose.yml file and take it down. You could also replace down with stop if you don't plan on updating each night like I do. I use rclone to connect to Dropbox but rclone supports many providers so check it out and see if it has the one you need. Lastly I use rclone to connect to my Dropbox and delete anything older than 7 days in the backup folder. If you end up going my route and get stuck let me know and I can help out. Good luck.

systemd = {
      timers.docker-backup = {
        wantedBy = [ "timers.target" ];
        partOf = [ "docker-backup.service" ];
        timerConfig.OnCalendar= "*-*-* 3:30:00";
      };
      services.docker-backup = {
        serviceConfig.Type = "oneshot";
        serviceConfig.User = "root";
        script = ''
        backupDate=$(date  +'%F')
        cd /docker/apps/rss
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose down

        cd /docker/apps/paaster
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose down

        cd /docker/no-backup-apps/nextcloud
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose down

        cd /docker/apps/nginx-proxy-manager
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose down

        cd /docker/backups/
        ${pkgs.zip}/bin/zip -r server-backup-$backupDate.zip /docker/apps

        cd /docker/apps/nginx-proxy-manager
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose pull
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose up -d

        cd /docker/apps/paaster
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose pull
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose up -d

        cd /docker/apps/rss
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose pull
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose up -d

        cd /docker/no-backup-apps/nextcloud
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose pull
        ${pkgs.docker-compose}/bin/docker-compose up -d

        cd /docker/backups/
        ${pkgs.rclone}/bin/rclone copy server-backup-$backupDate.zip Dropbox:Server-Backup/
        rm server-backup-$backupDate.zip
        ${pkgs.rclone}/bin/rclone delete --min-age 7d Dropbox:Server-Backup/
        '';
      };
    };

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone on lemmy here suggested Restic, a backup solution written in Go.

I back up to an internal 4TB HDD every 30 minutes. My most important files are stored in an encrypted file storage online in the cloud.

Restic is good stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

VM instances on the Proxmox VE with native integration with the Proxmox Backup Server (PBS).

For non-VM a little PBS agent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Desktop: I was using Duplicati for years but I've recently switched to Restic directly to B2. I'm using this powershell script to run it.

Server: I'm also using restic to b2.

I also have a Qnap NAS. I'm synchronizing my replaceable data to crappy old seagate NAS locally. For the irreplaceable data that's using the Qnap backup client to B2.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

At home I have a Synology NAS for backup of the local desktops. Offsite Backups are done with restic to Blackblaze B2 and to another location.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Backblaze B2. I was using AWS S3 but the Backblaze pricing is significantly better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You should look into s3 deep glacier. It’s $0.001 GB / month. Caveat is there’s a 6 month minimum charge per object.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I host everything on Proxmox VM's so I just take daily snapshots to my NAS

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So far I have had good experience with kopia. But it is definitly less battle-tested than the other alternatives and I do not use it for too critical stuff yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Rsync everything besides media to a Storj free account. I also rsync my most important data(docker compose files,config files, home assistant, a few small databases) to Google drive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use kup to back up my important PC files (the basic pre-installed backup software on KDE neon), which backs up to a separate drive on my PC, and that gets synced to my Nextcloud instance on my local server, and that - along with all the other data for my containers running on it - gets backed up by Kopia to DigitalOcean spaces.

I couldn't recommend Kopia strongly enough, because you have such fine control of what gets backed up, when it gets backed up, how many to keep etc. and it is versioned so doesn't grow exponentially, and it compresses and encrypts the backup. I also have a setup where it executes a script before and after the backup starts that stops and starts the containers to maintain file integrity since nothing will be writing to the files. And it's also a Docker container so it can just fit into your current compose setup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

All systems backup to Synology then to AWS Glacier. Ill check out Backblaze for pricing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

On Proxmox, I use the built-in system + storing it to my Synology NAS (RS1221+). I use Active Backup for business (filesync) to back up the Proxmox config files, and also backup the husband's PC and my work PC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I rsync my data once a day to another drive via script. If I accidentaly delete files, I can easily copy them back. Then once a day, rclone makes an encrypted backup to a hetzner storagebox

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm running https://www.arqbackup.com/ to Storj and Synology on my desktops and plain NFS copy on my server.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Backblaze B2. Any software that is S3 compatible can use B2 as the target and it’s reasonably priced for the service. I backup all the PCs and services to a Synology NAS and then backup that to B2 (everything except my Plex media, that would be pricy and it’s easy enough to re-rip from disc if needed).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I run a second Unraid server with a couple of backup-related applications, as well as Duplicati. I have my main server network mounted and run scheduled jobs to both copy data from the main pool to the backup pool, as well as to Backblaze. Nice having the on-site backup as well as the cloud based.

I occasionally burn to 100gb blurays as well for the physical backup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Everything:

Kopia encrypted -> another phisical drive

Kopia encrypted -> backblaze B2

  • Chron job every day at 4:15 AM

Most important folder (part of everything):

Duplicaty encrypted -> google drive

  • Also daily backup
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I do something similar with kopia to b2. it works wonderfully.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For my workstation I'm using a small script that packs and compresses all relevant directories with tar once a week. The resulting file is then copied to a local backup drive and to my NAS. An encrypted version of that file is sent to an offsite VPS.

For my selfhosted services (on Proxmox) I'm using ProxmoxBackupServer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've gotten decent results from s3cmd sync.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know if it's a smart solution but I have a HDD in my server that is used just for backups, each night I have rsync automatically moving stuff from multiple locations that I want to back up onto the drive. After that is done I have Kopia backup to B2, with compression, deduplication and encryption. I use healthchecks.io as well to alert me if any of the steps fails to complete (but none of the steps block each other).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For containers (but I use k3s) I use git to store helmfiles and configuration, secrets in ci/cd system.

For the rest - I use autorestic that backups data over ssh and S3.

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