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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At that point you should just get a tankless and never have your shower cry sessions interrupted by cold water again.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the cold is where I want my emotional state to end up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

[insert Linkin Park's "Crawling"]

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Every tankless I've used has been a piece of crap. Constantly breaking down. Heat surging and going cold in the shower. Outright just not heating water. All within 2 years of install. Never again. Tanks only for me from now on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That just killed one of my personal goals, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I ended up getting 2 hot water tanks and putting them in series. Endless hot water doing it that way. I've also plumbed it so that if one fails I can adjust a few valves and run on one tank until I can fix/replace the other.

I should note, I live 160km from the nearest city so I can't just call a guy out to fix things.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Couldn't you have just run it in parallel and have a T split with valves on the intake and output? In order to drain a side for repairs you could just close the working side off and void it normally. In series just seems like a weird choice to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I talked to a plumber and it's what he recommended. I decided to not to question someone with far more experience than me. Your solution would probably work too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, series sounds like an awful idea.

Unless they are weak as sht, and the water needs to be heated twice to get up to temperature.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As a Dutch person I've never seen a water heating system with a tank like in the US, we all use boilers and they are fantastic. Boilers are harder to use in "big" homes though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You haven't been to Europe then. I have a boiler in my basement which delivers hot water for two bathrooms and a kitchen as long as I want with constant temperature and never breaking down. That's not even something special just the standard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If you live in an area with hard water, you are suppose to descale the heater at least once every year by flushing the system with some citric acid solution, otherwise you may get irregular hot water flow.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I'd rather be able to shower with no power tbh..specifically opted for at.ospheric for that reason. Much cheaper to buy upfront and works in the event of big storms etc.. tankless can suck my dirty nuts but I see the appeal, kinda..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you're showering in the basement, then your pump doesn't work, and you'll flood the basement as soon as you fill up the waste water tank.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)

That's... what?

In my home there aren't any pumps.

Water comes in, under pressure, from the city to my water outlets around the house.

Waste water goes down a drain and out into the cities sewage system completely by gravity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does the hot water heater also use the pressure from the main line?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That's how all hot water heaters work. His just uses natural gas instead of electricity.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

as someone who has only ever lived in an apartment, the idea that you'd run out of hot water is so fucking insane to me

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Aww so you don't know the feeling of trying to convince yourself that the water coming out of only the hot pipe is still warm enough to continue showering.

How do you know when you're done showering when the shower doesn't kick you out?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me it's when I regain consciousness, after staring into the endless void that envelopes us all in its dark embrace... Or when I wanna go to bed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

At least when you pass out in the shower you don't end up with hypothermia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

it's like how as kids we want to gorge on candy, then when we get to decide our own diet we do that once and from then on there is no more desire to gorge because we know it's actually not that great.

you don't actually want to shower for 3 hours, it just feels that way because you never get to reach the point where you naturally stop wanting to shower.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait Sweden has enough population density to have apartments?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lol yes it's a standard form of housing, remember that 80% of people live in urban areas basically no matter which country you're talking about. 50% of the population lives in the 3 metropolitan areas, the vast majority of the population lives south of gävle, and basically everyone in the north lives on the coast or in the few inland urban areas.

The nordics are honestly pretty similar to north america, just on a much smaller scale. no one lives in wyoming but that doesn't mean the USA has no dense areas (NYC has a larger population than norway).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Absolutely, the majority of the population does live in "small houses" with 1-2 families but over 40% live in "Multifamily residential" with more than 2 families per building. I suspect that most of the "Multifamily residential" buildings are considered to be apartments.

The country is very sparse but that's mainly because there is a lot of land with absolutely nothing except trees. Most live in cities or towns where it's much denser (obviously nowhere close to Paris or London though)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Holy shit this caught me off guard, hahahaha.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was the first actual out-loud laughter of my day. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Go tankless or go home baybee

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Indefinite crying for me!

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

i just turn the flow down a bit once it gets hot so the cry can last longer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On the shower floor? I don't fit on there. Maybe if I had money and a modern shower, one of those that half of the water go outside because there is only a fucking half shower glass ...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have one of those, and we got tired of water getting everywhere. I hung a curtain rod.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

District heating wins yet again ;)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where do I get me one of these?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly by generational trauma but some get by with fresh trauma

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If you don't happen to have generational trauma, store-bought is fine

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And the one pictures doesn't need hydro so you can do it after having your power cut.

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