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Antiwork/Work Reform

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Date Created: June 15, 2023

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Capitalism. It’s a rigged game to make the poor bear the price for the greedy rich.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The people refusing to pay a living wage are the ones able to fund public misinformation campaigns and shape the public opinion.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

Come on, they’re just people too with common people problems. Cut them some slack.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Small but therapeutic rant.

Had a conversation last night with someone about how they were working with a client who was so demanding that they were basically a one-man IT department in all but name, receiving the same salary they'd receive if they sat on their ass, and that coasting quite literally on intermittent naps for over a week had finally resulted in an email to their superior about this being untenable, with no real result. This is a lifelong workaholic, and the fact they even sent that email means it's BAD bad.

I'd been nagging them about this for quite literally years and they admitted they were just beginning to understand what I meant now and were thinking about just....not working beyond the 40hrs they were paid for anymore. Clocking out. Work done. But that their coming review might suffer.

Asked them out of genuine curiosity whether they'd ever gotten more money from working so hard. Was told there are bonuses and how much, but whether those goals are met depends on the entire department, so....usually no. Which, if one has any inkling of how unhealthy their work ethic has been in the past, is atrocious to me, btw.

Asked if they were going to ask for a raise, then, since they're easily one of the most billable employees and technically they'd be paid more in unsalaried OT than in this company's continual missed bonuses. They balked at that and said while they could, management wouldn't like it and would consider them "disgruntled," and started listing off things like the company paying for licenses and weighing salary against "the cost of employing me."

The cost of employing me. Motherfucker, do you mean paying you? Software you're required to use? Reimbursing business travel that would otherwise still have to be factored into salary if you're to afford getting to the job site somehow? The company considers it a net loss that they have to pay you for and enable you to perform work, and will say this to your face!? Not even joking, my ass would be escorted from the premises, holy shit.

"The company has to buy licenses so I can work," like this is a legitimate pain-in-the-ass concession just for them that they'd otherwise not be doing for their replacement, instead of something the company legally has to do regardless in order to function as a business.

Last night was probably the most civilly I have ever lost my shit and I'm still mad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

On a serious note, since most replies are "capitalism bad", I will say the same thing but less reductive.

An indivdual's personal essential expenses come from the same pool of money that was given in exchange for work. Basically "buy less lattes and avocado toast" boils down to "budget better because you will have no power to increase your income".

On the other hand, the multi-bilionares that are buying yachts are using their own money to purchase those things and they do not pay employees directly from their income.They could reduce their income and refocus the company to deliver less profit to shareholders to pay their employees more but, if they did that, they would see little return on investment for the money they're giving up and likely lose shareholder investment. If you value your employees wellbeing, it makes total sense to give them more money. If you value people as interchangeable labor, it makes no sense at all since not paying people more has resulted directly in being able to afford an extravagant lifestyle.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The rheroric isn't meant for you, that's why

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It’s because any minute now I’m going to be a multi-trillionaire and I’m gonna want at least 2 private jets and several yachts that are big enough to fit a couple of private helicopters each.

If everyone just works hard they can do the same but they’re all lazy. I’m the only hard worker so I deserve it more.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rockets and spacecraft are making money rather than burning it, so other than yachts, they are mostly hording their wealth for control of their companies

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You’re not wrong, but I imagine the question being asked tongue in cheek

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Small brains will say that it's their money and they can do with it what they please.

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