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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Highly unlikely they’d ever be able to rebuild that bridge but it would start with turning back the API decision. Then hiring Christian from Apollo to help them with building a better app. A significant amount of the leadership stepping down and leaving. Mods getting paid. Transitioning to a platform not reliant on ads. Getting Victoria of AMA fame back. Having mods be an elected position.

If all that happened maybe I’d think they turned into something worth coming back to.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like Christian wouldn't take a job at reddit if they offered one. He seems to be pretty set on being a native iOS developer and reddit's app is cross-platform. Not to mention he has beef with the CEO now, lol

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Nothing. I was going to wait until the end of the month, but they've handled everything horribly. I've deleted comments and accounts already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, kbin has been better for me in every way. It's been mentioned already, but this whole situation was the push that me and a lot of other users needed to look into alternatives and find something that works better for us than reddit did.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't think reddit is fixable, or actually, the community. The hive mind system fucking sucks, and you can't change that without going 1984

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[–] drjkl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, me run out of alternatives worth trying. Just signed up for a lemmy instance today, and liking what I'm seeing so far (even if communities are quite a lot smaller than I'm used to at the moment), but there are other sites that might scratch the reddit itch that I'll try even if the fediverse stuff doesn't take off. Reddit has shown that that they're a) greedy, and b) incompetent at being greedy. And I'm not going to contribute to them again until I'm well and truly out of other options.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

First and foremost, get third party clients working again. I am used to RiF. I tried the official app. It was very busy but showed much less useful information per screen. I could not even even leave it installed on my phone. It kept spamming (shitty) notifications to try to goose my engagement, even after I disabled them.

Anger about bad corporate decisions fades, but if I cannot comfortably use a site, I cannot come back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know if I have an answer for that. My most active reddit was my local city sub (r/stlouis) and I spend a lot of time and got a lot of good information from there. It just really bums me out, but I'm looking forward to seeing how this whole deal works here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For me to go back, the CEO would have to be completely open about how they treated Christian and fully explain why they are doing that API pricing. But they won’t so I won’t go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure honestly. What I'll miss most is honestly the sports banter in the post game threads, and the long comment chains of hilarious takes after a game. But otherwise, I haven't been engaged with Reddit in a long time. All anyone wants to do in the comments is argue, and every post is a karma farmed bot post now. Even if it's less populated I'd rather spend time in a community I actually engage with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Some have said it: FLOSS Making Reddit's code:

  1. Free/Libre to avoid the problems with just open source and to give us all freedom.
  2. Open source to make the libre part effective.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not ruin the site with pointless features and keep old reddit/third party apps the way they were.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not much that wouldn’t also kill them, I think.

Reddit has become too massive for its own good, and it lost its sense of community from the early years. There was a few nice subs, but they usually ended up being popular for exactly this reason, and they ended up being connected to the “big centralized Reddit bubble” (if that makes sense), which killed the community in the process.

My best memories of fun or interesting conversations on Reddit were actually not made on particular subreddits, but more on recurrent stickied threads on some subreddits that only a few regulars opened and read. Those had a real sense of community.

So yeah, Reddit lost me as a user these past few days, but not 100% because of the actual changes that they made - I think I was already dissatisfied with it and that was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. It’s more like a combination of the massive user base and the way the website works that kind of suffocated communities. They cannot really change that, as they would probably not survive changes that are too big or a drastic reduction in the user base.

The Fediverse could suffer from the same issues if it becomes wildly successful of course, but the fact that it is federated adds another layer of separation between community circles, and I think that’s enough for mitigating that problem a little bit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Probably need to open source at least their core software and algorithm. Allow third party app to exist. It would be best if they turn into non-profit, but I am not against for-profit organization.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If reddit allowed 3rd party apps to operate at reasonable prices and charged separately for AI training use so that apps like boost and Apollo could exist I would consider using it. I loved it for the communities, some niche, but I am onboard with Lemmy now and I hope that grows here.

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