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Title says it all. Got the message of three remaining videos and then it locked.

I am using FireFox

Edit: Apparently, it was caused by me being logged into YouTube. But I would really like to be. Because that's where all my subscriptions are. If anyone knows of a way to have it both ways, please let me know.

Edit' : It was my Ghostery extension that was causing ruckus. I don't really like the idea of having to switch it off but at least it's nice to know the cause. Anyway, everything is working now. Even when I am logged in ^^

Also to anyone reading this, keep clearing your cache and update in UBlock Origin!

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Recommendation: report the pop-up as a bug with the provided link. Just act confused and claim to not be using an ad blocker. Muddy the waters and make life hell for their devs.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, the devs probably don't want this either, only because it means they'll keep their job are they doing this

I vote for making the executives' lives hell instead

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a SWE you have responsibility for what you do. "Golden handcuffs" isn't a cover to help wage wars against users. If it becomes an undesirable posting, they'll either have to pay more or worse engineers will end up working on it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging from how many SWEs are in the US, its basically this or loose your job. And that'd be a bit bad because of how many different pricing crisis there are at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging from how many voters are in the US, it's basically a totalitarian dictatorship or die.

That like of reasoning is kinda broken. We need people to take responsibility before things go too far. Google engineers can get jobs anywhere, they don't need to be doing this shit if they don't want to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I would wager a guess and say that many joined long before they got this bad, probably because back then their visions and values were a lot more aligned

Nowadays I rarely see more than hectic startups and Big Tech, both of which have massive downsides which affect people outside of their field too.

Additionally, especially at the HQs of Google and others, many SWEs live in vans on the street because rent is too high, they cannot just work somewhere else as that won't actually change the situation

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The devs aren't the ones making these decisions. That's like chewing out a customer support rep because their CEO did something you didn't like. Aim your anger more carefully.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How, though? Just like chewing out a customer support rep, the goal is to make it so either the employees constantly bring it up to their managers or they quit and the company can't find workers because it's so miserable.

Are the SWEs responsible for the decision? No. But if they find it too miserable to continue, they will quit and the people responsible will eventually have to respond.

That's really the only way to direct your anger at a CEO... Through the pocketbook. It's unfortunate that it's through the front line, but that's part of the job.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You're okay with putting somebody out of a job because of something somebody else did?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What I like to do is export my subscriptions using Google's data export page, and then import it into a Piped instance, in my case https://piped.adminforge.de or piped.smnz.de

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did that and fucking google didnt send it to me. Wtf. Anyone else with same problem?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Make sure you really only selected YouTube subs, otherwise they'll give you like 6 50gb ZIP Files (depending on how much they know about you 😉)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I want to use it but does it support subscriptions/ accounts? I have a lot of subs and I don’t wanna resub manually to all of them :(

EDIT: You absolutely can:

  1. Go to https://takeout.google.com/ (login if needed)
  2. Select only YouTube > All YouTube data > Deselect all > Select only Subs
  3. Download the takeout file and extract the .csv
  4. In Freetube, go to Settings > Data Settings > Import subs and click on the .csv
  5. Enjoy!
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, I just started with it and had to look this up. You can create different users too. To imprort subs you'll have to do a Google Takeout export, then import that CSV under Settings>Data Settings.

The FAQ has a nice step by step guide.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Freetube

finally downloaded the freetube .deb for my distro, works like charm. Damn me why I took so long :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use flatpak for the updates :P

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ghostery, Privacy Badger, etc, are all redundant if you have ublock origin anyway. uBO blocks all the stuff they block, and having multiple blockers makes it more likely they'll interfere with each other.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey bro, what about "I still don't care about cookies", "Duckduckgo privacy Essentials" and Mozilla's "Enhanced tracking protection" ?? Does uBO fulfill all of their roles too?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are additional lists you can activate to block annoyances like cookie banners. If you want to it's possible to add the whole "I still don't care about cookies" as a custom list so you combine the functionality without the added redundancy.

All the trackers that firefox blocks should be included in ublock origin as well. I'm not quite sure about their cookie isolation, but if you already block the tracking cookies you don't really need that.

As for DDGEP, it's also mostly a list of different trackers that get blocked which is redundant. The enforced https can also be achieved through browser settings. As for the link shortening to remove tracking, ublock has additional lists for that too. No idea about the supposed Google AMP protection and what it really does, but it also looks like a link shortener.

All in all, pretty much all functionality is covered by ublock origin, but it does require you to go into settings and enable some additional lists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As for the link shortening to remove tracking

Bro wtf get out of my mind, How in God's name did you answer a question I forgot to ask!
If I may ask, do you know of a megathread of the popular filters/lists to ublock origin ? they don't provide one on their subreddit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Link shortening is part of DDGPE so I mentioned it.

I don't know about any megathread or the like, but enabling the already provided lists in the setting should do most of the work. (If someone knows one I'd appreciate a link) If you need specific features like more cookie banner removals or blocking of youtube shorts, searching directly is good enough to get what you want.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Refreshing the ublock caches work most of the time however if it doesn’t, clicking the share button and then ‘embed’ just brings up a regular non-blocked video player

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

YouTube updates their adblock detection script twice a day meaning you have to update your filter list twice a day aswell. However, not the whole list, just the "quick fix" section. Click the clock icon and then update button at the top.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No issues, no advertisements.

Mullvad Browser + ublock Origin + Mullvad VPN, not logged into google.

Freetube, and newpipe are both working fine as well.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Youtube has just began fighting real hard against adblocking so ublock has to update their solution constantly.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

iirc the ublock origin team said that youtube updates its antiblock solutions at least twice a day. It's a constant battle.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm am still not having any issues with FF and ublock but I do not log into youtube and apparently that has been an issue.

As much as I don;t like to point people to reddit, reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/ is the best place to go for advice.

This is the thread to check:

https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/178yasm/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_16_2023/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I use NoScript, and as far as I can tell, I have blocked the script that showed said pop-up. No more nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can access your subscriptions from https://piped.video

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be nice if the instance wasn't always overloaded. Ended up blocking the Piped link bot because of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Change the piped instance you are using to a local instance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That could work ;)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~For now I am not messing with my extensions to prevent the YT message. I found that the extension Kill Sticky, which eliminates all kinds of elements that cover content, blows away the popup. So, I just dismiss the message with one click when it comes up.~~

~~Eventually the adblocker situation will improve, I hope, but for now doing it this way is only a minor inconvenience.~~

Edit to add: Well I got the "countdown" popup, and you can certainly dodge it by blowing it away with a tool that deletes overlays... but the countdown continues and then it does block the content in a new way. Other people posted that accepting the ads once resets the countdown, this did not work for me. I ended up installing my own Invidious instance since I have a Linux box on my LAN but I look forward to better anti-anti-adblock extensions.

SmartTube on Android TV still works great.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go into your uBlock settings and purge the cache and update your filters, that should fix it, filters do usually keep up to date with YouTube but uBlock stores the old ones cached.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

And you need to open a new tab too iirc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Had no issues on firefox but the popup showed up in brave.

Simply switching off brave shields on YouTube, installing ubo, purging then updating fixed it all up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

For me blocking element works so far. you need to block not only message but an overlay that remains and prevents scrolling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Havent had any issues today. Ive been logged in, using firefox.

[–] Supermariofan67 1 points 1 year ago

Btw, ublock origin can do everything ghostery can but better, if you enable the privacy related filterlists in the settings