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Greta Thunberg Arrested in Direct Action at Global Fossil Fuel Summit in London (www.commondreams.org)
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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm all for Greta Thunberg, she's doing more with nothing than most politicians who have everything.

These authorities don't know how to stop a protest. If they just stop arresting her and giving her a headline, we'd never know about what she is doing.

Every time they arrest her, she gains the publicity she needs.

We should all be ashamed, ..... I am whenever I'm reminded of her work .... a young woman is fighting against a monolith because she knows what's going to happen to billions of people in the future ... while we all sit quietly hoping all these problems just go away on their own.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

It's been really interesting watching Greta grow up - like in the teenager to adult sense. When she was younger you could see that kind of passionate idealism that you have when you're young (I don't think it's a bad thing, the way society crushes this in young people is the bad thing). But now she just has this very profound smirk on her face everytime she's arrested. It's not a happy smirk but more of a 'yep this shit again' smirk. I think it's a testament to her authenticity and commitment to calling out bullshit. As an autistic person Greta is also an amazing inspiration to me because sometimes people who can tell it like it is are an absolute asset to our society.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's important to remember not to compare your situation to that of public figures. Greta Thunberg is wealthy and she's not have to work to survive. She is using that to fight for a cause that is admirable and we should applaud her for that. But don't beat yourself up for prioritizing short term survival needs. Some people genuinely can't do more than go vote once a year.

This system is stacked against the little guy in more ways than one. Including ensuring that we don't have enough time to raise a stink. While I have the income to suggest I could spend time doing stuff like this, I also recognize how quickly all of my assets would disappear if I took a couple of months.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That not what I expected but thanks. That a very realistic view and I recognize myself in it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder what her international arrest record is now.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Whatever the numbers, I’d call it “admirable”

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Sometimes the evil really is as simplistic as a childrens movie

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

those cops really must feel like they're on the right side of history...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They always do

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have tremendous respect for Thunberg, but I’m worried about her future. After becoming internationally famous, she’ll have a hard time growing up to be a well-adjusted adult.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

bruh she's the most well-adjusted child i've ever seen get famous i think she'll be ok

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

That’s a good point. She’s not some child actor reading from a script.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

From her perspective her future is already fucked up thanks to all the adults in the room, so she probably doesn't care.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well-adjusted meaning what, exactly?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Able to handle being in the spotlight constantly. Being happy with her life. Not feeling like she needs to live up to other people’s standards. That sort of thing.

Edit: oh, and I hope nobody takes advantage of her, either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

She's 20 years old. I think this is what she looks like as an adult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is she allowed in countries where she needs to answer questions along the following lines in the arrival card: have you ever been arrested, etc.?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They're mostly looking for "have you committed w violent crime" and not "did you sit down in front of an oil refinery"