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Has anyone tried bribing the gulf stream with some of these massive profits? Everything has a price

Very optimistic of you.

Joking aside, apathy isn't the problem. That is, the issue isn't that people don't care. Ordinary people care a great deal. The problem is that the cost of the action that would be sufficient to change things is too high personally for those ordinary people to take.

People just don't want to be gunned down by riot police or go to prison for assassinating oil executives. The solution to this problem isn't paper straws and recycling (and it never has been). Further, abandoning cars isn't feasible for stroad-bound Americans. Abandoning beef is, but your family switching to chicken and fish won't even twitch the needle.

Point is, the kind of change that's needed is societal--the kind of revolutionary change that's paid for in streets full of blood. In the "Well if enough people just ..." argument, the enough people is hundreds of millions. We have to become a fossil fuel eschewing society. Whole industries have to collapse.

The companies responsible for climate change can be counted on one person's fingers and toes, and they're names any adult can guess in a few tries.

We're not storming their doors because we don't want to be recipients of the state violence these companies will muster to stop us.

Flooding cities might change our minds, but probably only for the people who actually live there. The sad truth is the rest of us will sooner consign Miami to the depths than orphan our children for their grandchildren's sakes.

Things will change when we starve, but probably not a moment sooner.

Covid-19 has made me even more cynical than ever. It has shown that people would rather die than accept reality. And compared to climate change, the effort to protect against covid was minuscule on an individual level. But still, too many people couldn't be asked.

Just looked it up on Wikipedia and "Hurricane Katrina displaced over one million people from the central Gulf coast to elsewhere across the United States, becoming the largest diaspora in the history of the United States."

Having a million Americans lose their homes wasn't enough to even move the needle on climate action. Same way that over a million Americans died of COVID and many people still claim it's a "hoax". I'm convinced that the propaganda is just too much to ever overcome.

I really, really, really want to be proven wrong - but I think you could literally have entire nations be made uninhabitable, and rather than welcoming refuges and making policy changes to avoid climate disaster, we'll find a way to bury our heads in the sand and complain about immigrants taking our jobs.

It wont happen like in Day After Tomorrow.

The beaches will get shorter, the docks will get deeper, then some warehouse will get flooded along with some homeless camp.

Land prices will shift, people will move, it'll be a curiosity.

That island nation on the Pacific? Oh well.

Given that we're already losing entire island nations, I'm not sure even that will do it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati

Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I don't think they ever will.

It's probably not going to be a whole city at once. It's going to be a building here, a building there, barely escalating beyond local news unless it's a famous building (Mar-A-Lago?). There's going to be more and worse hurricanes, but climate deniers will point out how they weren't as bad as Katrina or Maria or Sandy. Insurers have already started leaving those areas, changing policies, and/or hiking rates.

The big exception will be if another New Orleans levy breaks. But people will blame the very idea of that city existing below sea level as being an inherently bad idea (which.... I don't think is entirely wrong) and use that to deflect away from the influence of climate change.

People still denying climate change today are either financially invested in doing so, or will need a ridiculous and dramatic event to convince them. Something like you would see in a disaster movie, like a 300ft tall Tsunami.

Really is our story and our end. Jfc

Psh, the capitalists will save us all with their record profits and zeros at the end of their bank accounts! I'm sure that's not why these rich assholes aren't trying to race into space or anything.

I hate to say it, but even if somehow the top 1% or .1% disappeared, we'd probably stay on the same trajectory.

Only in the winter. Summers will be burning hot.

Brexit benefits.

you're not.

If you're on earth, you're not safe from catastrophic climate change unfortunately.

our only hope is a absolutely radical shift towards decarbonisation, however the drive of capitalism and greed is an unstoppable force.

Enjoy normal life while we still have it at this point.

We're not safe anywhere because people move. Borders ar nothing more than a concept.

After becoming YouTube educated on this matter.. Not to that extent. The main thing to notice in the short term is the slowing of the gulf stream will reallocate 'sea level' on either side of the ocean.. Which sounds like a 3ish ft increase on the west, and the same as a decline for the east.

I'm not a water science person though, so I'm just mimicking words.