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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Just delaying the inevitable given netflix kills shows after the 2nd season

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not always. Sometimes they do it after the first season.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

only if there are gay people involved and being happy

also i'm still angry and bitter about gypsy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And Lockwood

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's at least one more season than Paramount gave us.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Technically, they’re the ones giving us the second season (as in they’re still paying for production), but they’re not the ones streaming it.

I still don’t get why they’re doing this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paramount+, the streamer, cancelled it.

CBS Studios, the producer, kept it going and found a new buyer.

Two separate entities, even though they're both subsidiaries of the same parent company.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Apparently it’s a tax write off.

It’s risky though because a) Star Trek is no longer all in one place b) if it’s a hit then Netflix benefit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don’t think Netflix actually cancels shows after two seasons any more often than other networks do.

Somehow people got it into their heads that Netflix is far more cancel-happy than its competitors, but if you look at the numbers, traditional TV networks have had like a 50% cancellation rate for decades.

Even TOS was cancelled after two seasons!

If Netflix is more prone to cancelling shows at all, which I’m not convinced is even true, it can’t be by an enormous margin.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Actually there’s both metric evidence and statements by senior Netflix executives that a show has to do well in the first few weeks to be renewed.

They’re also very committed to their drop it all at once, or at most in 2 parts per season.

So it creates an environment where shows are rarely renewed unless they are top of the streaming charts.

They may have a different decision criteria for kid and family shows though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was an article a few weeks ago about how Netflix only has about a 15% cancellation rate. Unfortunately there was no deep dive into the data, so the figures are suspect. A few factors that weren't considered:

  • A very significant percentage of Netflix programming is reality TV and cheap junk. This doesn't get cancelled because well, it's cheap.
  • Many series don't get cancelled, they just aren't renewed. If Netflix tells the producers this is the last season, they're gonna rush the storyline to some kinda ending regardless of whether it was originally supposed to stretch several more seasons.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone kills the show, wouldn't it be Paramount? Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

I know people have their issues with Netflix but I'm just relieved it's not Peacock or some other service no one cares about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Netflix is just picking it up to stream on their service.

Just as a TV network "cancels" a series by deciding not to order/air it, Netflix could do the same. Theoretically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But it seems clear at this point that Paramount believes that it'll be able to make a return on its investment, so it's just a matter of where the show eventually lands, not if the new season gets created.

Unless they do like WB did for Batgirl, and shitcan the entire thing permanently after production is complete, for a tax write-off.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sadly they gave Manifest a 3rd and 4th season.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying it's already cancelled again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

new record incoming, removed from the service before even being added.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

i like prodigy but i hate netflix :(

[–] AdmiralShat 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

She’s still dead ……. :(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hello guybrush threepwood you sure are mighty

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How appropriate. You fight like a cow!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

At least you'll be able to find it on the high seas now, rather than it rotting on some hard drive in the back of a cupboard.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hi everyone! Netflix by far is the best home for Prodigy in the current streaming landscape.

They have the largest media share and Star Trek has historically done exceptionally well on their service — this opens the door for more seasons of our show.

Animated shows like “The Dragon Prince” have run up to seven seasons on Netflix.

“Longmire” was saved from cancellation and was renewed for an additional five seasons by Netflix. So was “Lucifer,” and many others.

Feel free to celebrate!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw this article first, but startrek.com has an announcement with a couple of brief quotes:

“Thank you to our incredible Star Trek: Prodigy fans, who championed not just a show, but a community that’s always been connected by the belief that we build a better future together,” said executive producer Alex Kurtzman and co-showrunners Dan and Kevin Hageman. “We set out to inspire you, but you inspired us. The team is still hard at work on the second season, and we can’t wait to share it with the amazing fans around the world.”

“I've always held that the Star Trek fan base is among the strongest and most intelligent in the world. They have shown their collective passion, and we’re happy to be able to celebrate Prodigy once again,” said Kate Mulgrew, voice of Admiral Janeway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Kate Mulgrew sure knows how to please her fans.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Excluded from the deal are Canada, where Prodigy is carried by CTV.ca and the CTV App, and in SkyShowtime’s European territories: the Nordics, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Central and Eastern Europe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

This Canadian currently pays for:

  • Premium/4k/ Expensive Netflix
  • Amazon Prime
  • Disney+
  • Paramount+
  • YouTube Premium
  • Crave (going away at Christmas)
  • Curiosity Stream
  • CBC Gem
  • Spotify

The CTV App can fuck itself. I'll be pirating the show and I'm not even ashamed.-

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jeeze, I wasn't even aware that Gem had a paid tier...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Glad it got picked up. I thought it would be Amazon Prime most likely to get it as they'd already invested in Picard. But I'm fine with Netflix. I'm due to get back round to Netflix after Christmas on my subscription rotation plan so hopefully I can binge watch both seasons of Prodigy by then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was hoping for Prime, but their kids offering is pretty anemic compared to Netflix. With the cost of Netflix it only gets a few months a year in our household too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I was actually linking to it as you sent this!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good change. I think we could be in a much better place if companies that owned both production and streaming were more open about licensing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The pendulum seems to be swinging back toward that model, at least in some cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum it is then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't let friends use streaming TV subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yar 🏴‍☠️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

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