This is something I would have loved to hate.
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I think this is a great take.
I get the appeal. Cross overs are enticing. But Zach Snyder's justice League demonstrates a huge challenge that most people don't seem to discuss: the recruitment needs to have a purpose.
Remember when Batman is asking Aquaman to be in his ~~movie~~ team? It's clear that the only reason is that the team is not a means, it's the end. He doesn't need him for any particular reason, he just spends the he could be trying to ~solve~ a mystery building a club from scratch with no clear purpose. I think this set up would have the same problem.
In some contexts this would be called a solution without a problem. I couldn't agree more!
We should have gotten some DS9 movies before this mess was ever considered.
Something would bring all the great Star Trek villains together
thanks, i hate it
Yeah one of the things about star trek villains is that they're not typically motivated as "I'm evil and want to destroy the world, mwahahaha." That's not to say that the writing is always perfect, but they just wouldn't share enough of the same motives to join forces.
“I can't imagine it would have been good, but boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.” — This is the perfect reaction and I cannot improve on it in any way.
The best way I have to describe this kind of movie is "delightfully terrible."
I have a feeling that there are fans of Star Trek V The Final Frontier here.
The lesson should be that bizarre ideas for 5th movies should never be brought to screen.
I like Star Trek V. I've never really understood why people say TMP is the most like TOS, I think it has a pretty significantly different tone, but V really just feels like a middle of the road TOS episode with a way bigger budget, and I think it's a bunch of fun.
God, this pitch makes so little sense on so many levels. Star Trek has never been about the villains, so having a batman-style villain team-up makes no sense. Seven samurai in space with time travel is a reasonable pitch, but why would you need to build a team that involves a captain, a captain, a science officer, and a captain?
Same reason we got a whole season pulling the old TNG crew back together, I guess
boy do I wish I existed in a universe where this movie had been made.
I have the exact opposite opinion lol
Same! I've always considered time travel to be a "plot cheat code" because it allows writers to do whatever they want. This works out ok sometimes but other times it just makes for bizarre stories that defy belief. This would definitely be the latter kind!
I enjoy ST largely because it's believable (in a broad strokes ignore the details kind of way) so far-fetched stories don't do it for me as much. Time travel is firmly in "never gonna happen" territory.
Really though, I just would have wanted to see Archer on the big screen, regardless of quality.
Yo this sounds like a phaser beam dodged to me. This just confirms that there is a worse timeline after all
Lol this is such an optimistic perspective. Thank you. :)
This sounds terrible! Thanks for sharing
“It’s revolting!”
“More?”
“Please!”
Maybe instead we have an army of Datas vs an army of Nomads from TOS and they have a big robot fight like in the last Avengers movie.
Or really go off in a bizarre direction and time travel back to a long time ago in a galaxy far far away and team up with R2D2 and C3PO to help fight a team up of Darth Vader and the Borg.
I could go on...
Would Abraham Lincoln and Surak be on team Starfleet, like in TOS' "The Savage Curtain" (s3e22)? Would everyone enter a fight suit that would join together into a giant fighting robot that has a shiny Starfleet insignia on it? Justice League of Starfleet. I just can't.
Star Trek: Voltron does sound kind of dope.
. He goes back to the moment before Data blows up and takes him back to get Kirk and Spock
This reads more like a treatment for Star Trek Generations. as if they realized how stupid that movie is, and wanted to fix it
I love that movie and thought it was a good torch passing. But going any further than they did would be silly.
Justice league of Star Trek crew ultimate team up….
Where is this movie and how do I pay to see it :/ yes it would likely be terrible but seeing Kirk vs Janeway dynamic or spock vs Kira debates arguments etc
And those are the first two that come to mind
So as everyone else has said ... yuck!
But then I quickly remembered "... All good things". Time travel, big CGI thing in the sky, reuniting with old characters (Tasha, O'Brien) ... and it works very well, especially as a send off.
I'm thinking that there's a kernel in there as a farewell to TNG era trek. Maybe not something where Picard becomes a literal Time Lord, but more where a drastic event has forced time-bending onto everyone at the epi-center of the event and any attempt of take advantage of it also entails some cost and the only way to fix the "breaking of time" is to do something incredibly starfleet.
There's no evil per se just things breaking and people taking advantage of it. And Borg 🤷 .
Picard pulls Archer through time and Archer turns to the camera and goes, "Oh boy"
Waited four seasons for them to do this throwaway gag on #Enterprise but nope, too silly... but invalidating four seasons of Enterprise by revealing that the whole show was a holodeck program run by Riker... That's a-ok
I don't think the whole show was a holodeck program? It actually happened and Riker simply ran a holodeck program based on those events. Still a pretty dumb way to end the show, but I don't think it invalidates the previous 4 seasons.
Waited four seasons for them to do this throwaway gag on #Enterprise
And they had the perfect episode to do it in too.
Star Trek: Gladiator 2.
It would have been a most excellent adventure but a bogus journey.
Taking the time travel from All Good Things and going a little too nuts with it.
The Generations we should have had.
Not even kidding the premise is goofy but with a visionary director and sincere enough attempt, this could have been amazing.
The people in charge of TNG by that point were creatively bankrupt. It would have been a fiasco.
Also, the idea just doesn't fit Star Trek. It isn't a comic book franchise, where fan-pleasing callbacks and crossovers are baked into the formula. In Star Trek media, callbacks and crossovers have tended to be some of the worst stories.
Damn I read the ideas for Star Trek: The Beginning. Besides the stupid name it sounds like an awesome idea to see the first Earth - Romulan war and have something bridge the gap between ENT and TOS
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