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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am not religious, but I like the substance of this quote by C.S. Lewis: "If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things —praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (any microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds."

There are always wars, rumours of wars, plagues, natural disasters, but the work remains the same as it has been for much of human history.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

well said, thank you for this

[–] [email protected] 141 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

A lot of us are 40+ but I appreciate your meaning.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (13 children)

We need to include the Cold War and the nuclear crisis to the list.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Gen X checking in. Here's a list of world crises just in my lifetime. This is by no means a comprehensive list:

1975 - 1990: Lebanese Civil War
1976: Tangshan earthquake (China) - 242,000+ deaths
1979 - 1989: Soviet-Afghan War
1979: Three Mile Island nuclear accident
1980 - 1988: Iran-Iraq War
1981 - Present: HIV/AIDS pandemic
1983 - 1985: Ethiopian famine - 1 million+ deaths
1984: Bhopal gas disaster (India) - 15,000+ deaths
1986: Chernobyl nuclear disaster (USSR)
1987: Black Monday stock market crash
1989: Exxon Valdez oil spill
Late 80s - early 90s: Recession 1990 - 1991: Desert Storm
1991 - 2002: Somali Civil War & famine
1992 - 1995: Bosnian War & Srebrenica massacre
1994: Rwandan genocide - 800,000+ deaths
1999: Columbine High School massacre (the beginning of a trend)
2000: Y2K
2000: Recession (Dot Com Bubble, etc)
2001: 9/11
Early 2000s: Recession (Fallout from 9/11) 2001 - 2021: Afghanistan War
2003 - 2011: Iraq War
2004: Indian Ocean Tsunami - 230,000+ deaths
2005: Hurricane Katrina - 1,800+ deaths
2007 - 2008: Global Financial Crisis
2008 - 2009: Great Recession
2009: H1N1 swine flu pandemic
2010: Deepwater Horizon oil spill
2010: Haiti earthquake - 160,000+ deaths
2011: Tōhoku Earthquake and Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant Disaster
2011: Arab Spring uprisings & Syrian Civil War begins
2014: Ebola outbreak (West Africa) - 11,000+ deaths
2014: Russian annexation of Crimea
2015: European migrant crisis
2017: Hurricane Maria (Puerto Rico) - 3,000+ deaths
2019 - Present: Covid19
2020: Australian bushfires - 3 billion animals affected
2020: George Floyd protests & global BLM movement
2021: January 6th US Capitol riot
2022: Russian invasion of Ukraine
2022: Pakistan floods - 1,700+ deaths, 33 million displaced
2023: Turkey-Syria earthquakes - 50,000+ deaths
2023 - Present: Hamas-Israel war and open genocide
2025: Global Trade War

The first third of this list took place during the Cold War, when WWIII and nuclear attacks were a real fear. Add in climate change, the discovery of microplastics in everything, the world seemingly embracing Fascism again, and a whole slew of other shit, and it's no surprise that suicide rates have increased almost 40% over the past 25 years.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We didn't start the fire.
It was always burning, since the world's been turning

[–] silasmariner 8 points 3 days ago

No we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it...

Did we fuck

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Another one for the list in early 1980 when US tried to start a nuclear war with Russia and that's when the doomsday clock was born. They told kids ‘just roll under a desk if a bomb drops’

Yes, a nuclear bomb. The same as the one in Hiroshima.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (6 children)

It's missing working 3 jobs to survive and still being called entitled and lazy

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Y2K wasn't that bad compared to the rest

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)

In hindsight. There was some degree of hysteria at the time, which prompted ended at the turn of the millenia when planes did not fall out of the sky and computer systems did not all fail in unison.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Nothing personal, I try to correct this view everywhere I see it.

Y2K didn't happen because a lot of talented engineers worked their asses off to prevent it from happening. It is the bane of IT people everywhere that the working state of the systems they create and maintain is being taken for granted by the public, with barely a thought givem to those who fight bugs, spam, cyber attacks and pure entropy every day. It is in fact a minor miracle of engineering that we're even having this conversation.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Thank you. I was on the Y2K team.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Pretty sure we are in a "unofficial world war 3" considering how there's like 6 countries at war

Russia vs Ukraine

Israel vs Palestine

India vs Pakistan

Americans vs America.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Does US vs the world in economic war count?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a Gen Xer who lived through the fall of the Berlin Wall and then all of the rest of this shit, I'm so tired. Y'all millennials even got to miss there Reagan years. Nixon may have started the car, but Reagan is the asshole that shifted it into drive, tossed a brick on the pedal, and let it go off down the mountain.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've become convinced after the recent India/Pakistan conflict that WW3 is near impossible under current conditions just due to the fact that you start losing your very expensive airforce really really quickly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It seems the Ukraine conflict and the U.S's plans to counter China's push on Taiwan indicate that the future of warfare is:

....Just...a gazillion, never-ending swarms of coordinated, "cheap", militarized drones....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I remember reading somewhere that one of the reasons the War in Ukraine has gone on as long as it has is because of how much of the conflict has been taken up by the use of militarized drones, cutting down on (but not eliminating by any means) the amount of people getting killed.

Which is good in that it means fewer people dying in a pointless war for Putin's ego, but bad in that in that it dulls the human cost that has been known to really kill war efforts, even in dictatorships.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Before Ukraine, I’d read that idea quite a few times.

Previous wars were run on logistics and manufacturing - can you keep your guys supplied longer than the other side? But now you goto war with what you have, you lose ridiculously expensive and very lethal equipment very quickly. Modern equipment is so complex and expensive that you can never sufficiently speed up manufacturing, so once you’re out, you’re out. Your equipment may not last long enough to institute a draft and call up more people, so once you’re out, you’re out. War over. Very quickly.

That was the expectation. Then there’s Ukraine, which defied all expectations. Somehow it kept going, it turned into a logistics battle again. The modern lethality didn’t happen as expected

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Real I'm not quite sure Y2K should be in there since it didn't really result in anything happening.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Y2K was like the ozone.

It became a big nothing issue because of the spreading awareness, hard work, and other activities that went into preventing it.

So like I said in another post.

The problem with crisis is always the people.

If nothing happens, cause of the hard work to prevent it, people riot over it being a big waste of time cause nothing happened

if something happens, then people riot because no one worked hard to prevent it.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank software engineers for that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The real concern for computers is the Year 2038 problem.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

It was considered pretty serious at the time. I remember being at a new year's party and everyone went outside at the ball drop to see if the world turned off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Apparently IT people at the time had to deal with bunch of stuff and come to work at christmas just in case.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

We're also closing in on a potential second plague here with bird flu since there's been a concerning surge of infections in cats and the current regime is refusing to act on it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Don't forget the return of measles, as well as even more e-coli and salmonella outbreaks as food safety is curtailed.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Add a housing crisis, the construction of a corporate surveillance state, a fascist takeover and the impending employment apocalypse of AI implementation.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Gen X here - we had Mutually Assured Destruction as well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

I still remember watching the news as a child right after the tsunami of 2004 and seeing the death toll rising day by day.

It is only going to get worse with climate catastrophy barely being addresed. Hunger and water shortage is only going to increasr the frequencies of wars and pandemics. Which will result in more and more extremism.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The dot-com burst was a recession too.

Oh, and you are ignoring the entire thing where every currency except the dollar was destroyed in the 90s.

Also, history ended in 1986. It seems you didn't get the memo. It would have been typed and nailed into your local clipboard.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Older Gen Z have lived through all of those as well, but before the age of 30 😭

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Bird flu is scheduled before WW3 so plural plagues

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Do people not remember that they didn't have cars until like 1920? Do people not understand that most roads weren't paved until like the 50s? It's foolish to think we're the only generation living through lifetime events. Motherfuckers they were people that went through World War I and World War II. They were veterans of World War 1 that enlisted in World War II. There are people born in the fifties that lived through the computer Revolution. Do people not understand that the internet is only 30 years old?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (16 children)

as a gen Z I still don't get why Y2K was such a big deal

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Computers were not designed to roll over the year. This would have caused the dates to roll back to 1900 or some day in the past, breaking any logic doing math on dates.

The programming community made huge efforts to fix this problem, and they did across many sectors.

The fact that people don't understand how big of a deal this was is due to the efforts of those that did and were able to correct it.

The media talking about power outages and nukes launching due to Y2K was standard news hype/fear mongering during a crisis with rather boring (to the layman) causes and fixes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

the people problem of any crisis.

If you did nothing, and it becomes a big problem, everyone riots over why you did nothing about it.

If you raised awareness, busted ass, and prevented the issue from happening.. then everyone riots over how much of a "waste" it all was since nothing happened.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

And climate change

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