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This appears to be a direct consequence of a recent settlement with the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which had charged HoYoverse with deceiving minors into spending for their loot boxes. The Chinese developer was subsequently banned from selling them to users under 16 without a parent's express consent, paid a $20 million fine to the FTC, and was also subject to the following stipulations:
- Prohibited from selling loot boxes using virtual currency without providing an option for consumers to purchase them directly with real money;
- Prohibited from misrepresenting loot box odds, prices and features;
- Required to disclose loot box odds and exchange rates for multi-tiered virtual currency;
- Required to delete any personal information previously collected from children under 13 unless they obtain parental consent to retain such data; and
- Required to comply with COPPA, including its notice and consent requirements.
The why is rarely argued. The how is always the point of contention. That's why I am wondering what they are asking for age verification.
Sure would be convenient if the US came up with some way to electronically verify IDs...
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But the adults, they weren't deceived in any way. Hoyo scammed them fair and square.
Ban the entire business model.
No laws against that (lootboxing), yet, and I doubt EA doesn't have their lobbyists against such laws if enacted. It's also something that has existed so long as to become a cornerstone of mobile gaming... well, a cornerstone outside of the stupid Voodoo dot-io kind, anyways. While extremely unethical IMO I wouldn't call it any more deceptive than any regular casino, that is.
Rare US W ?
I don't understand. For spending money one requires banking/card information. How children will get their guardian's banking details without their consent?
Have you paid for things on mobile in-app? The operating system stores your info behind a password (or biometric) because adults (non-gambling as well) also hate having to memorize 16 digits flawlessly every time they needed to make payments.
I've refused to move my payment from password to biometrics purely because I'll spend more if I don't have to type out my 22 character password. A few times I've gone to buy something and seen the password field pop up and just like.. uhh cbf.
And then saved like $30.
Some ancient internet slang you've got there.
absorbs
You've made me reread my comment multiple times and I still don't know what the ancient slang is. God I'm not even 30 and I'm already being made feel old lmao
well i can't be fucked to point it out!
Didn't know that was ancient, I see it used a lot among... I guess other almost 30 year olds.
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Why would parents' payment info be stored in child's device or user account?
Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.
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What are they requesting for age verification?
TDLR: "If you don't give us PII information within a made up deadline, we will deny you access to any content you paid in the past."
A settlement with the FTC is not some "made up deadline" Hoyo can change.
TBF the FTC is currently the least legitimate it has ever been as an organization
The settlement—negotiations finished January 17, 2025—was before Trump's inauguration and the illegal firings.
Blame the US for declaring that US minors are too stupid and US parents too neglectful to pay attention to what is purchased online.
They have to kick off kids from their game, legally, and nearly all mobile and online games that have any way to spend real money will be doing the same within the next year.
They have to kick off kids from their game, legally, and nearly all mobile and online games that have any way to spend real money will be doing the same within the next year.
Good. Gambling is illegal for minors under the age of 18.
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Force government ID and I'm out. Max I'm giving you is DOB.
... And I don't even play anymore
DOB, yes.....Fake, but yes.
I'm old enough for any DOB check, yet I still lie.
Quick scroll down and a click on wherever i land, mhmm.
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9/11/1900
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Largest simp/grindwage DB ever
Yeah because they intentionally sexualise their extremely youthful characters
... And promote gambling.
wait how exactly are the kids sexualized? i know there's like one or two, but are they actually sexualized canonically?
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Ha. I hope it kills it.
people under 18 will just jerk off to the girls instead of spending money on the game
Deleting friends lists seems pretty extreme for being late to verify your age? What age are they requiring? 18?
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