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The Privacy Iceberg

This is original content. AI was not used anywhere except for the bottom right image, simply because I could not find one similar enough to what I needed. This took around 6 hours to make.

Transcription (for the visually impaired)

(I tried my best)

The background is an iceberg with 6 levels, denoting 6 different levels of privacy.

The tip of the iceberg is titled "The Brainwashed" with a quote beside it that says "I have nothing to hide". The logos depicted in this section are:

The surface section of the iceberg is titled "As seen on TV" with a quote beside it that says "This video is sponsored by...". The logos depicted in this section are:

An underwater section of the iceberg is titled "The Beginner" with a quote beside it that says "I don't like hackers and spying". The logos depicted in this section are:

A lower section of the iceberg is titled "The Privacy Enthusiast" with a quote beside it that says "I have nothing I want to show". The logos depicted in this section are:

An even lower section of the iceberg is titled "The Privacy Activist" with a quote beside it that says "Privacy is a human right". The logos depicted in this section are:

The lowest portion of the iceberg is titled "The Ghost". There is a quote beside it that has been intentionally redacted. The images depicted in this section are:

  • A cancel sign over a mobile phone, symbolizing "no electronics"
  • An illustration of a log cabin, symbolizing "living in a log cabin in the woods"
  • A picture of gold bars, symbolizing "paying only in gold"
  • A picture of a death certificate, symbolizing "faking your own death"
  • An AI generated picture of a person wearing a black hoodie, a baseball cap, a face mask, and reflective sunglasses, symbolizing "hiding ones identity in public"

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Monero? Really? I used to mine it and know about it but just advertising crypto is just weird.

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[–] [email protected] 276 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think this is the first time I've seen an iceberg meme with sources and explanations for each item. Fantastic. Your work is appreciated.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago

To be honest, and it wouldn't work here, but I sometime enjoy the cryptic nature of iceberg memes at the lower ranks. It's like a scavenger hunt.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I was at the bike shop a few weeks back and a ghost walked in. He came in wearing a medical mask covered by a bandana, sunglasses, cap. They wore gloves, long sleaved pants and shirt.

First question from staff, 'this a robbery?'

Ghost, 'no, I just need 27 2.5 tubes, miss.'

They get the tubes, he agrees. Staff asks if he has an account. Ghost says, "nope, why would I need one?" Staff says they do it for records, insurance claim assist, and discounts. Ghost goes with a John Doe, pays cash and peaces the fuck out.

Total King, but dude was given up a lot. Half of us were drinking beers enjoying a warm evening in spring. I hope he has had some good rides.

I can say with confidence thay he was a white male. In his 50s. About 5'10". 140 lbs-ish. If anyone wants to get any tips, good luck!

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Funny how you need more and more technical knowledge to go deeper into privacy, until the last level, which is basically giving up on technology itself.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago (7 children)

TIL I'm a privacy activist--who can help me get to the ghost mode?
(Do I even want to get there or is that limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them?)

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Do I even want to get there

Only you can answer that.

or is that limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them?

Pretty much, but if you want to give up all technology, work for yourself, and fake your death, then more power to you!

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Can you explain why you would think Steam is so bad? I would argue they're pretty fair, especially with the option to buy steam cards for cash to not disclose your personal data. Does the client do some unsavory shit?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Seeing steam at the top makes me question the list. Likely a hate of DRM rather than privacy

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Yeap, and Brave in the middle. They only pretend they are for privacy, but they are the very opposite.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah i hate when I see people using Brave, because they have been brainwashed.

Does anyone remember when they were injecting their own referral links into links for online stores (99% certain they did this pls prove wrong if you know better)? This alone leaves them with 0 trust in my books.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

It might be there because there is a lot of data associated with the steam account, especially the community part of it, e.g.:

  • Recorded playtimes
  • Times and dates when you are regularly logged in
  • Possession of games which are precisely tagged by genre/interests/etc.
  • On which time and date you spent how much money (participation in sales in the steam store)
  • Timestamped posts and comments in groups based on various interests etc.
  • Curators/devs/publishers you follow
  • Your game wishlist
  • Connection and interaction with other steam accounts (friends list, chat, trades, gifts)

All this can be used to create a very detailed behaviour profile and accurately deduce the social status of the real person who uses the account. Maybe the data isn't misused and it's just there so the features can actually exist.

Personally, I doubt Valve actually does this as expansive and invasive as other big tech companies. I'm pretty sure they at least aggregate anonymised data to measure how e.g. their sales perform, which game to promote on the store front page etc.

But we can't be sure because it's not public.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I have no clue why telegram is often mentioned when it comes to "privacy focused messaging". They don't even have e2e encrypted group chats. Only 1:1 chats may be encrypted as an opt-in. Even WhatsApp is more secure than that, since they use signals encryption.

Also the "we don't give out even a byte of data to anyone" statements made by telegram have been thoroughly debunked as lies. When telegrams bottom line is in danger, they have and will give out your data.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Tried the Privacy Activist and Enthusiast section. Was not really fun and you loose connection to most of your friends and family. Now I have a balanced setup with something out of each layer. Perfect balanced, as things should be

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I have taken my own approach; there are things from each layer that I use. Some begrudgingly but others gladly.

The problem I faced when starting this journey is it does cut out a lot of people. And it becomes isolsting. So I did reel back a bit.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (8 children)

What’s the issue with steam? I thought the epic game store was the one actively spying on your device

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (8 children)

On browsers, as you put Chromium then also put Firefox or deMozillaed Firefox e.g. WaterFox.

I'd put Brave back to the 2nd layer due to relying on Chromium and being heavily marketed while gathering data for its crypto scheme. I'd also put Firefox on the 2nd or 3rd layer.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Thank you so, so much for the transcription, appreciated!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Weird how Apple and iMessage are not in the same category. How do distrust apple’s privacy claims but trust iMessage?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Oh, am I that far gone?

spoilerI don't see Qubes, Whonix or Tails on there.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (21 children)

Sadly, using small niche VPNs that might be more trusted makes you stand out more. It's pretty unusual to have a Mullvad user on your server

They don't rotate IPs as well so a lot of them are blacklisted... and don't offer port forwarding anymore

I wish they could change IPs reguarly and add port forwarding back :-( - I would happily pay for their service again

Because 5€ for their current service is overpriced

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Any Chromium-based browser in anything but the top-most panel is a non-starter with their abandonment of Manifest v2. Manifest v3 seriously cripples any Chromium-based browser’s ability to be secure, as extensions like uBlock Origin are no longer compatible by design.

Google has it’s ad business to protect, after all.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Pretty good!! I agree with 95%.

Loved the "As seen on TV" category!

I agree that Tuta is more secure than ProtonMail.

Some are blended like Tor, that should be in Activist if used in secured computer.

~~Was not aware of the existence of Coincarp (logo by GrapheneOS). Is a crypto price tracker used by Activists? I left crypto a couple of years ago but though Activists just don´t trade much and stick for the long haul and use Monero for purchases.~~

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