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The Privacy Iceberg (lemmy.ml)

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The Privacy Iceberg

This is original content. AI was not used anywhere except for the bottom right image, simply because I could not find one similar enough to what I needed. This took around 6 hours to make.

Transcription (for the visually impaired)

(I tried my best)

The background is an iceberg with 6 levels, denoting 6 different levels of privacy.

The tip of the iceberg is titled "The Brainwashed" with a quote beside it that says "I have nothing to hide". The logos depicted in this section are:

The surface section of the iceberg is titled "As seen on TV" with a quote beside it that says "This video is sponsored by...". The logos depicted in this section are:

An underwater section of the iceberg is titled "The Beginner" with a quote beside it that says "I don't like hackers and spying". The logos depicted in this section are:

A lower section of the iceberg is titled "The Privacy Enthusiast" with a quote beside it that says "I have nothing I want to show". The logos depicted in this section are:

An even lower section of the iceberg is titled "The Privacy Activist" with a quote beside it that says "Privacy is a human right". The logos depicted in this section are:

The lowest portion of the iceberg is titled "The Ghost". There is a quote beside it that has been intentionally redacted. The images depicted in this section are:

A cancel sign over a mobile phone, symbolizing "no electronics"
An illustration of a log cabin, symbolizing "living in a log cabin in the woods"
A picture of gold bars, symbolizing "paying only in gold"
A picture of a death certificate, symbolizing "faking your own death"
An AI generated picture of a person wearing a black hoodie, a baseball cap, a face mask, and reflective sunglasses, symbolizing "hiding ones identity in public"

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In regards to addy, are my messages private in relation to the service or does it only serve to keep my anonymity to other threat actors?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's the logo between Tor and ProtonVPN?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Using basic things like Graphene OS and keepass shouldn't be considered privacy activist

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I care about privacy, but you just lose a lot of features like “Find my device”, security check-ins, now playing, live transcriptions, etc… If you care too much about privacy, okey, but it’s not a “basic thing”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm a mix of UbO, Firefox, Windscribe, Windows (modified), Protonmail, Discord, and Cash

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How the heck is TOR less secure than any of the vpns? Also nice vpn psyop/ad.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How the heck is TOR less secure than any of the vpns?

This isn't a ranking of security. It is ranked based on the experience level at which people generally begin to start using certain software. They build on top of each other.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Can you explain why you would think Steam is so bad? I would argue they're pretty fair, especially with the option to buy steam cards for cash to not disclose your personal data. Does the client do some unsavory shit?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

Seeing steam at the top makes me question the list. Likely a hate of DRM rather than privacy

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I give workshops on privacy. I always tell them that if they get nothing else out of my presentation, its that they should use a password manager.

Honestly I think keepass should be beginner. That comes first before everything else.

Also I think Tor Browser should come before VPNs. Its free and easier to use than VPNs (for when you want to google something secret and don't want to be tracked. Most beginners are selective like that)

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (8 children)

TAILS is missing :(

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

That's how amnesiac it is.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 days ago (6 children)

TIL I'm a privacy activist--who can help me get to the ghost mode?
(Do I even want to get there or is that limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them?)

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Do I even want to get there

Only you can answer that.

or is that limited to journalists who have entire states trying to unalive them?

Pretty much, but if you want to give up all technology, work for yourself, and fake your death, then more power to you!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The only thing stopping me from being 'the Activist Group' is that Mullvad requires payment. Sorry, but I'm running a little tight on budget.

At the same time, I can't use Proton VPN for torrenting.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Any Chromium-based browser in anything but the top-most panel is a non-starter with their abandonment of Manifest v2. Manifest v3 seriously cripples any Chromium-based browser’s ability to be secure, as extensions like uBlock Origin are no longer compatible by design.

Google has it’s ad business to protect, after all.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Weird how Apple and iMessage are not in the same category. How do distrust apple’s privacy claims but trust iMessage?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (8 children)

What’s the issue with steam? I thought the epic game store was the one actively spying on your device

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Thanks a ton OP for linking to all the tools and services in description, this is an awesome resource!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

Thank you so, so much for the transcription, appreciated!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Also, I am out of the loop? What’s up with firefox? I have used it on linux mint for maybe 6 years now with uBlock. Currently trying to use DuckDuckGo as default browser because that Google AI results thing is starting to annoy me.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I already made browser suggestions https://lemmy.ml/post/29712598/18453254 but I would also add Ceno https://ceno.network/ in the 5th layer due to its P2P and caching nature.

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