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[–] [email protected] 300 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How is this not enforced by the court that ordered it? It should be 30 days and you end up in prison.

[–] [email protected] 187 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

People are kept in prison without a conviction, for not affording bail. Owing a thousand times the lifetime earnings of other people should at the very least mean all your accounts and holdings are frozen, and you can't spend anything without getting independent approval every time.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The settlement payout is on hold pending his bankruptcy case is why they haven't done something like this. However, lawyers for the families are in fact trying to have his assets placed in a trust or have the bankruptcy case cancelled outright because of his spending. By design it's a slow, complicated process where Jones has lots of legal (and illegal) avenues to delay paying. Fortunately Jones is so stupid and outlandish that he's likely hurting his own case so I wouldn't be surprised if a judge slaps him with more severe sanctions.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

his bankruptcy case

The fact that he can simultaneously have a bankruptcy case and spend nearly six figures in a single month is absolutely infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

its almost like our bankruptcy system is built by rich people for rich people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Yes, at very least that!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Welcome to the world of civil court decisions :(

If it had been a criminal defamation case, then it would be criminally enforcable... but all this really means is "a judge ruled you need to pay" and if you don't pay, then you could sue them again for not paying, and it just goes in a loop over and over again. I have a friend whose family has been in a loop like this in civil court over a bad real estate venture for decades with someone who simply ignores the rulings.

It hangs over the head of the person who did it, but in the end it's mostly just a "it's on your permanent record" kind of stain which can stop people from working with you and damage your personal life, but it's not like the kind of people who would work with Alex Jones don't know who they're working with.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not true at all. You can garnish their wages or put a lien on their property. What do you think banks do if you don't pay your loans?

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/tips-collecting-judgment-29479.html

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's a lot harder with rich people, they typically aren't reimbursed by traditional means, and they can afford to hire people to obscure your assets with your businesses or trust assets.

What do you think banks do if you don't pay your loans?

They typically take what you put up as collateral, this is why banks typically require some sort of collateral even if the person is wealthy.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Seems to me that failing to pay a proper court ordered civil case should be a crime, at least in the case where you're just ignoring the court order, not where you can't actually pay.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a bankruptcy process ongoing. He's trying to trick it but is failing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The ruling meant nothing. The guy is on the air now calling the Maui fire a false flag.

[–] [email protected] 146 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Dude spends more in a month than I make in a year and a half. Fuckin eat these pigs.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Damn, you're doing alright at least. It'd take me almost 3 years to make that

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Oh god why? Is this a highschool-college or non-usa country thing?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Can't wait for the roast Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffet pie!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Plenty of people out there spend more money just on soap and diffusers, than you or I make in a year and a half, lol

[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rich people are never held to account, ever.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

which is why people want to be rich. it's way bigger benefit than the money.

people think about all the maga types that are 'one day millionaires'. nah, it's not about being rich for money, it's about they back a guy who does the stuff they wish they could personally do. like be rabidly racist in public without consequence

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ppp loans were/are the best example. Handout billions citizens with zero accountability.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Forgive some rich asshole who took out 5 false PPP loans? Mmm okay

Forgive your neighbors student debt they've been chipping away at for 10 years? Fuck that why should they get anything?!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It's why these rich people back the GOP. The tax breaks are real but the consequences of social policies won't affect them when they can fly wherever, put their kids in private schools and escape any social damage.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago

One of the people he owes millions of dollars to, Erica Lafferty, had to do a Kickstarter for a cancer treatment just so she has a better chance of not fucking dying. She still hasn't seen a dime from Alex "I'm the Debil" Jones.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5m9b/alex-jones-owes-her-millions-of-dollars-she-has-to-crowdfund-her-cancer-treatment-on-gofundme

Shout out to Knowledge Fight and the work the boys have been putting in to expose and debunk Alex Jones' constant stream of lies.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago

Piece of shit

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fucking seize his assets and jail him for contempt already.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

No, no. That suggests Rich people can get in trouble for doing dumb things. Can't be having them treated like plebs?

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of the people he owes money to is a cancer patient who has to crowd fund her treatments

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

At least trash bags have a purpose. His only purpose is to provide a gender neutral bathroom once he's in the grave.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Find him, tie him up by his feet, and shake his pockets clean.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jones’ spending in July, which was up from nearly $75,000 in April, included his monthly $15,000 payment to his wife, Erika Wulff Jones — payouts called “fraudulent transfers” by lawyers for the Sandy Hook families. Jones says they’re required under a prenuptial agreement.

...what?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They somehow wrote in monthly "spousal maintenance" or similar payments in the prenup. It's weird, but legal and enforceable in many states.

Jones probably chooses to try and keep some money in the family by sending it to his wife. I don't really know if there's a debtor hierarchy for this sort of thing, but until somebody challenges it, he's going to keep doing it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

He got married in 2017 and the lawsuits were not filed until 2018. Did he know these lawsuits were coming or something?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Someone really needs to sic a team of forensic accountants on this asshole.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Probably at just one fast food restaurant.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Sad to see for the families. They deserve better.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

“I mean, I’m a straight-up guy. I’m a do-good in Mayberry RFD.”

Lying little shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I've never wished death on someone before but that might be broken soon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Can't we just make him eat a bag of those chips in that challenge?

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